Rig upgrade question?

equobix · 06-17-2007, 04:17 PM

hey so im upgrading my old rig, im picking up a e6600, 2x 4gig ram pc6400, a 150 gig raptor drive and and asus commando mobo.
im also getting windows vista through my school store, my question is, what version of vista do i need (or should i get)? i want to get all the useful features but i also dont want to pay out the ass, the regular vista ultimate is 85 from school, is that alright for my build?

my video card now is either an x1900xt or an x1950xt

also, is that build alright?

Grimmlokk · 06-17-2007, 04:23 PM

Don't forget the anti-rust undercoating for your rickshaw.

brekk · 06-17-2007, 05:11 PM

you're getting 8gigs of ram? you better be getting a 64bit OS

Hachima · 06-17-2007, 07:47 PM

The max ram that can be addressed by a 32 bit OS is 4 gigs, and video memory is part of that number. Same for a 32 bit app so even a 64 bit OS won't help you there.

Vorph · 06-17-2007, 07:54 PM

I would assume he meant 2x2G for a total of 4GB, seeing as 4GB dimms start at around $1200.

Buy the Ultimate, if it's the same as the normal retail version it will come with both 32 and 64 bit versions and you can use 32 bit for the time being until 64 bit becomes mature enough to use. Just be aware that you'll only address 2.8-3.0GB of ram depending on how much vram your card has.

Aegdaien · 06-17-2007, 07:55 PM

As far as Vista edition goes, maybe I'm just doing something wrong but Vista Home Premium runs significantly better than Ultimate does for me. However this is on two different machines:

Ultimate Machine (desktop):
AMD 64 3700+
2gb ram
500gb 7200rpm 16mb HD
Nvidia7900GS

Home Premium (Dell E1505):
C2D T5300
2gb ram
160gb 5400rpm hd
Radeon x1400

With identical programs running on each machine, I sit at almost 1gb physical memory used on the desktop. On the laptop I sit at ~700. I don't know what's accounting for the difference, but programs running on Vista Ultimate are using a lot more ram than the ones on Premium (iTunes especially, close to 300mb on the desktop and <50mb on the laptop with the same libraries). Take it for what you will but I'm pissed I even spent $34 on Ultimate.

Kaosu · 06-17-2007, 07:59 PM

Get at the most 4gigs of ram. 2x2gb will do it for a while, DDR3 is expensive at the moment.

2x1gb is still good enough and really, any past 2x1gb of ram will just lower overall performance.

Until you actually need something over 2 or 4 gigs of ram (video editing, rendering, applications that take major memory resources e.g not games with memory leaks) then I wouldn't recommend it. 4gigs of ram is just a waste of resources anyways. If you have a 512video card or a 1gig videocard (768 for nvidia 8800GTX) then you'll be wasting ram.

A year or two down the line and I could see four gigs of ram. Not now, however.

06-17-2007, 04:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
equobix Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 134 -1 Internets	Rig upgrade question? hey so im upgrading my old rig, im picking up a e6600, 2x 4gig ram pc6400, a 150 gig raptor drive and and asus commando mobo. im also getting windows vista through my school store, my question is, what version of vista do i need (or should i get)? i want to get all the useful features but i also dont want to pay out the ass, the regular vista ultimate is 85 from school, is that alright for my build? my video card now is either an x1900xt or an x1950xt also, is that build alright?

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Vorph Never Go Full Retard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 5,341	I would assume he meant 2x2G for a total of 4GB, seeing as 4GB dimms start at around $1200. Buy the Ultimate, if it's the same as the normal retail version it will come with both 32 and 64 bit versions and you can use 32 bit for the time being until 64 bit becomes mature enough to use. Just be aware that you'll only address 2.8-3.0GB of ram depending on how much vram your card has. __________________

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Kaosu Lost in the Twilight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gilbert/Chandler, Arizona Posts: 974 -1 Internets	Get at the most 4gigs of ram. 2x2gb will do it for a while, DDR3 is expensive at the moment. 2x1gb is still good enough and really, any past 2x1gb of ram will just lower overall performance. Until you actually need something over 2 or 4 gigs of ram (video editing, rendering, applications that take major memory resources e.g not games with memory leaks) then I wouldn't recommend it. 4gigs of ram is just a waste of resources anyways. If you have a 512video card or a 1gig videocard (768 for nvidia 8800GTX) then you'll be wasting ram. A year or two down the line and I could see four gigs of ram. Not now, however. __________________ Like a frenzied horse that is driven. An unseen wind of plague shrieks across the border. Pandemonium, wailing, and stench of carnage fills the air. There is no place to run. No hope of escape. Those who are mourned will never return. The hands of time cannot be turned back.

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06-17-2007, 07:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hachima Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,643	The max ram that can be addressed by a 32 bit OS is 4 gigs, and video memory is part of that number. Same for a 32 bit app so even a 64 bit OS won't help you there.

06-17-2007, 07:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Aegdaien Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,095 -4 Internets	As far as Vista edition goes, maybe I'm just doing something wrong but Vista Home Premium runs significantly better than Ultimate does for me. However this is on two different machines: Ultimate Machine (desktop): AMD 64 3700+ 2gb ram 500gb 7200rpm 16mb HD Nvidia7900GS Home Premium (Dell E1505): C2D T5300 2gb ram 160gb 5400rpm hd Radeon x1400 With identical programs running on each machine, I sit at almost 1gb physical memory used on the desktop. On the laptop I sit at ~700. I don't know what's accounting for the difference, but programs running on Vista Ultimate are using a lot more ram than the ones on Premium (iTunes especially, close to 300mb on the desktop and <50mb on the laptop with the same libraries). Take it for what you will but I'm pissed I even spent $34 on Ultimate.