Safari for Windows

Usha Starchild · 06-11-2007, 08:15 PM

I just downloaded this to try it out, seems ok. Something seems a little off but I cant place it.

Anyone willing to bet Safari passes firefox penetration really quick?

prescient63 · 06-11-2007, 08:20 PM

Nah, I don't think it will pass firefox penetration. Firefox's greatest strength is all of the plug-ins it has available. That is the reason I use it on my mac even though it is sluggish as hell compared to safari and camino. I think i would die without del.icio.us. But leopard is looking fan-fucking-tastic! I can't wait.

Vorph · 06-12-2007, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Usha Starchild

Anyone willing to bet Safari passes firefox penetration really quick?

I'd be more inclined to bet that it never goes above an insignificant percentage.

Usha Starchild · 06-12-2007, 06:52 AM

^ Thats what I thought as well. Until I read they will start bundling it with Itunes(500 million downloads).

Warrik · 06-12-2007, 07:00 AM

Its fast however.

Usha Starchild · 06-12-2007, 07:24 AM

Forgot to mention they will bundle it with quicktime too.

Vorph · 06-12-2007, 08:22 AM

Reason #9485 to use Quicktime Alternative.

Usha Starchild · 06-12-2007, 08:27 AM

Unfortunately only people who are computer nerds like us know about QT alternative and Real Alternative.

Drave · 06-12-2007, 10:13 AM

As Google works more and more with Apple, I could see Safari leveraged into MS user space:

1. iTunes morphs into more of the Safari browser (rather than bundled)

2. Google does the backend online storage, mail, etc. to the ".Mac" service, and integrates the features into Safari. dotMac seriously needs to be overhauled, and I think the new service information will come out with iPhone's release. (the keynotes alludes to VPN being added to .Mac) [Apple .Mac ]

3. iPhone syncs through Safari & .Mac to your home PC (via wifi over the cloud)

4. More direct integration with Google video/YouTube

I'm not a Safari user yet, but if the security and the feature set gets better... maybe.

Bralkan · 06-12-2007, 05:54 PM

not having a status bar at the bottom was wierd at first (Feels like I hit F11)

Braen · 06-13-2007, 05:49 AM

Security researchers: Safari for Windows not so secure | Tech news blog - CNET News.com

Hello I'm a Mac and I'm crashing your PC.

Security researchers: Safari for Windows not so secure
Posted by Robert Vamosi

Within hours of Apple's public release of the beta for Safari 3.0 for Windows, three security researchers independently found holes within the new browser. Researcher Aviv Raff highlighted in a blog post the company's product statement, that reads: "Apple's engineers designed Safari to be secure from day one." Raff found a vulnerability, a memory corruption error that could allow an attacker to insert malicious code on a Windows machine, within three minutes using publicly available fuzzing tools.

Security researcher David Maynor, posting on his Errata security blog, said he was also able to generate a memory corruption error "in no time." By the end of the day, he was able to generate a total of six bugs--four producing a denial of service (crash), and two capable of executing remote code.

Veteran security researcher Thor Larholm wrote in his blog that he found a "0day" vulnerability in Safari within two hours. The flaw exists in how Safari handles URL protocols within Windows, causing a denial of service (crash). Larholm has published an exploit to demonstrate the flaw.

All of the vulnerabilities were found on Windows machines; none of the researchers could say whether these flaws also existed on the Mac OS.

Warrik · 06-13-2007, 07:14 AM

Ive been using Safari on the Mac for quite a while, and I must admit, I was hoping for a but more to have been implemented for v.3. While the browser certainly renders pages fast, I'm absolutely boggled by the lack of intelligent tabs. Why are we still having to press a key in addition to a mouse click to open a page in a tab instead of another Window. It should be the other way around as I pretty NEVER want to open more than one window and would rather the browser handle links with intelligent tabbing. Firefox and IE7 both handle tabbed browsing very nicely....get with the program Apple. Also, extensions and add-ons are no longer the future, its become pretty much standard expection for most users.

On the plus side, snap back is a great feature and the way Safari handles RSS has always been great. Its a good browser, and in alot of ways much better than IE, but in my opinion, has further to go to really match the functionality of Firefox.

06-11-2007, 08:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Usha Starchild Whatever I touch turns to Rickshaw. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 961 -5 Internets	Safari for Windows I just downloaded this to try it out, seems ok. Something seems a little off but I cant place it. Anyone willing to bet Safari passes firefox penetration really quick?

06-12-2007, 06:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
Usha Starchild Whatever I touch turns to Rickshaw. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 961 -5 Internets	^ Thats what I thought as well. Until I read they will start bundling it with Itunes(500 million downloads). Last edited by Usha Starchild : 06-12-2007 at 07:26 AM.

06-12-2007, 08:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
Vorph Never Go Full Retard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 5,669	Reason #9485 to use Quicktime Alternative. __________________

06-12-2007, 05:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bralkan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 2,118 -1 Internets	not having a status bar at the bottom was wierd at first (Feels like I hit F11) __________________ We're all idiots. http://nottheparrot.blogspot.com

06-13-2007, 05:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
Braen Watches the Watchmen Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 3,960 +3 Internets	Security researchers: Safari for Windows not so secure \| Tech news blog - CNET News.com Hello I'm a Mac and I'm crashing your PC. Security researchers: Safari for Windows not so secure Posted by Robert Vamosi Within hours of Apple's public release of the beta for Safari 3.0 for Windows, three security researchers independently found holes within the new browser. Researcher Aviv Raff highlighted in a blog post the company's product statement, that reads: "Apple's engineers designed Safari to be secure from day one." Raff found a vulnerability, a memory corruption error that could allow an attacker to insert malicious code on a Windows machine, within three minutes using publicly available fuzzing tools. Security researcher David Maynor, posting on his Errata security blog, said he was also able to generate a memory corruption error "in no time." By the end of the day, he was able to generate a total of six bugs--four producing a denial of service (crash), and two capable of executing remote code. Veteran security researcher Thor Larholm wrote in his blog that he found a "0day" vulnerability in Safari within two hours. The flaw exists in how Safari handles URL protocols within Windows, causing a denial of service (crash). Larholm has published an exploit to demonstrate the flaw. All of the vulnerabilities were found on Windows machines; none of the researchers could say whether these flaws also existed on the Mac OS. __________________ Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn - In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming "That is not dead which can Eternal lie, and with strange Eons even death may die" - H. P. Lovecraft

06-11-2007, 08:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
prescient63 You can't blame women for what they do wrong in the same way that you can't blame a dog for what it does wrong. Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,401 -6 Internets	Nah, I don't think it will pass firefox penetration. Firefox's greatest strength is all of the plug-ins it has available. That is the reason I use it on my mac even though it is sluggish as hell compared to safari and camino. I think i would die without del.icio.us. But leopard is looking fan-fucking-tastic! I can't wait.

06-12-2007, 07:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
Warrik Ive been reading these boards since noows....that makes me uber Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 2,090 -3 Internets	Its fast however.

06-12-2007, 07:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
Usha Starchild Whatever I touch turns to Rickshaw. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 961 -5 Internets	Forgot to mention they will bundle it with quicktime too.

06-12-2007, 08:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
Usha Starchild Whatever I touch turns to Rickshaw. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 961 -5 Internets	Unfortunately only people who are computer nerds like us know about QT alternative and Real Alternative.

06-12-2007, 10:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
Drave Sly. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 598 +4 Internets	As Google works more and more with Apple, I could see Safari leveraged into MS user space: 1. iTunes morphs into more of the Safari browser (rather than bundled) 2. Google does the backend online storage, mail, etc. to the ".Mac" service, and integrates the features into Safari. dotMac seriously needs to be overhauled, and I think the new service information will come out with iPhone's release. (the keynotes alludes to VPN being added to .Mac) [Apple .Mac ] 3. iPhone syncs through Safari & .Mac to your home PC (via wifi over the cloud) 4. More direct integration with Google video/YouTube I'm not a Safari user yet, but if the security and the feature set gets better... maybe.

06-13-2007, 07:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
Warrik Ive been reading these boards since noows....that makes me uber Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 2,090 -3 Internets	Ive been using Safari on the Mac for quite a while, and I must admit, I was hoping for a but more to have been implemented for v.3. While the browser certainly renders pages fast, I'm absolutely boggled by the lack of intelligent tabs. Why are we still having to press a key in addition to a mouse click to open a page in a tab instead of another Window. It should be the other way around as I pretty NEVER want to open more than one window and would rather the browser handle links with intelligent tabbing. Firefox and IE7 both handle tabbed browsing very nicely....get with the program Apple. Also, extensions and add-ons are no longer the future, its become pretty much standard expection for most users. On the plus side, snap back is a great feature and the way Safari handles RSS has always been great. Its a good browser, and in alot of ways much better than IE, but in my opinion, has further to go to really match the functionality of Firefox.

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