Ron Paul, does he stand a chance?

[Aulirophile]

Originally Posted by kegkilla

just got back from the rally in philly. i am a somewhat apprenhensive ron paul supporter myself, i went with my buddy who is a big time supporter and his lil bro. there seemed to be a ton of energy at the rally but considering its the only rally i've ever been to i don't have anything to compare it to. unfortunately, a good portion of his supporters seem a bit nutty. we were grabbing a bite at mcdonald's before the rally and some wackjob noticed my friend's ron paul hat and came over and asked us if we knew 9/11 was an inside job. wtf does that? its that kind of shit that will turn main stream voters off from ron paul's campaign. also saw some Rastafarian type characters there, but on the plus side met a good number of normal looking people, even older 50+ish type people. big turn out also, i'd say at least 3k.

I've been to hundreds of rallies in my lifetime, Ron Paul's definitely have far more energy then your typical Republican rally. Democrats are hit or miss, not even from candidate to candidate but rally to rally for the same people.

Ron Paul rallies actually remind me of Perot rallies to a degree.

[Vinen]

Originally Posted by kegkilla

just got back from the rally in philly. i am a somewhat apprenhensive ron paul supporter myself, i went with my buddy who is a big time supporter and his lil bro. there seemed to be a ton of energy at the rally but considering its the only rally i've ever been to i don't have anything to compare it to. unfortunately, a good portion of his supporters seem a bit nutty. we were grabbing a bite at mcdonald's before the rally and some wackjob noticed my friend's ron paul hat and came over and asked us if we knew 9/11 was an inside job. wtf does that? its that kind of shit that will turn main stream voters off from ron paul's campaign. also saw some Rastafarian type characters there, but on the plus side met a good number of normal looking people, even older 50+ish type people. big turn out also, i'd say at least 3k.

Expect fucked up people at any Rally.

[Khorum]

Not a lot of rastafarians at Huckabee rallies...

[rinthea]

Originally Posted by FulorianC

How fucking stupid are you if you think inflation doesn't affect the US aside from imports?

a falling dollar is not the same thing as inflation

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

Maybe not, but what good is it to us when we buy our foreign manufactured goods with a currency that is failing?

Doesn't that translate to higher prices? Doesn't that mean the consumers feel the same thing?

[Soriak]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

Maybe not, but what good is it to us when we buy our foreign manufactured goods with a currency that is failing?

Doesn't that translate to higher prices? Doesn't that mean the consumers feel the same thing?

Translates to higher prices of imported goods... foreign manufacturers selling in the US will eventually be forced to raise their dollar prices - which in turn makes domestic goods more attractive.

Stuff manufactured in China by US companies likely won't get much more expensive: the manufacturing is cheap and the high cost stuff (marketing, design) is a cost in dollars.

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

So you think that companies that rely on foreign manufacturers will eat the profit loss and keep the price tag low?

[Tolanin]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

So you think that companies that rely on foreign manufacturers will eat the profit loss and keep the price tag low?

ya thats pretty much exactly what they will do.

[chaos]

Originally Posted by Tolanin

ya thats pretty much exactly what they will do.

So basically all major importers in the US will just start taking huge losses because..... why exactly?

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

Chaos sees what I'm getting at here. Rarely in the history of 'Making Profit' does one voluntarily... make less of it. If it costs them more money to get it here, you can bet your ass it's going to cost us more money once it's here. No ifs ands or buts about it.

So, in the unlikely event that they actually keep prices the same, a weak currency means the exact same thing as inflation to your average consumer - it means things cost more. Whether your dollar is worth the same and you just need more of it, or whether it's worth less and you still need more of it - it means we're fucked.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

Chaos sees what I'm getting at here. Rarely in the history of 'Making Profit' does one voluntarily... make less of it. If it costs them more money to get it here, you can bet your ass it's going to cost us more money once it's here. No ifs ands or buts about it.

So, in the unlikely event that they actually keep prices the same, a weak currency means the exact same thing as inflation to your average consumer - it means things cost more. Whether your dollar is worth the same and you just need more of it, or whether it's worth less and you still need more of it - it means we're fucked.

So you're gonna KEEP buying their goods when the quality remains the same, your wages remain the same and their prices keep going up? Is that the depth of the lessons you've eked out of the "history of Making Profit"? Is that really what they teach young commies now? Not like they could maybe oh I dunno find a cheaper supplier? Lobby a different senator? But no! "ooh I know, we'll just raise our prices and the consumers MUST pay exactly what we want mwahhaha".

Um, no.

[darksensei]

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[Soriak]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

Chaos sees what I'm getting at here. Rarely in the history of 'Making Profit' does one voluntarily... make less of it. If it costs them more money to get it here, you can bet your ass it's going to cost us more money once it's here. No ifs ands or buts about it.

It entirely depends on the product and the market situation. You didn't see a price increase in the PS3, for example - even though Sony reports its profits in Yen and is losing (even more) from a weak dollar. On the other hand you also don't see a price drop in Europe, despite the strong Euro - may just end up evening out.

You also forget that these companies are in competition with domestic manufacturers. If they raise their prices, people will simply buy less of their stuff, also leading to lower profits. If they expect the dollar to rally shortly and go back up, it may temporarily even make sense to sell at a loss - just so you don't have to raise the price now and drop it again later, nobody likes that.

[chaos]

Yeah but we're not talking about PS3s here, we're talking basic necessities that people need every day.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by chaos

Yeah but we're not talking about PS3s here, we're talking basic necessities that people need every day.

So you mean 360's and Wiis. Yeah, I know what you mean.