Ron Paul, does he stand a chance?

[Simas]

Republicans now have their own Nader. Enjoy it.

And for real, he has no chance. Sorry.

[Kaio]

He's completely flat out denied going third party. Did I miss something? Well two months a go there was a very slight hope of him getting the GOP nomination and now it's zilch.

The media reception of Paul was for the most part non-existent. Even popular figures like Giuliani wasn't able to survive not being prominently in the news media during the start of the caucus/primaries. He had little to no air-time due to not running in the first few states due to him not campaigning there.

The effect the media has, imo is clear. They continually talked about mccain/romney/huckabee from Iowa on and they became the frontrunners. Back when Giulani announced and started campaigning he was on top of the polls since the media covered him more then anyone.

[Jimmy Carter wuwu]

Everytime I saw Paul on a CNN debate he got to answer 1 of every 4 questions. Only Romney and Mccain were able to answer every question.

[Sunder]

Originally Posted by Kaio

He's completely flat out denied going third party. Did I miss something? Well two months a go there was a very slight hope of him getting the GOP nomination and now it's zilch.

The media reception of Paul was for the most part non-existent. Even popular figures like Giuliani wasn't able to survive not being prominently in the news media during the start of the caucus/primaries. He had little to no air-time due to not running in the first few states due to him not campaigning there.

The effect the media has, imo is clear. They continually talked about mccain/romney/huckabee from Iowa on and they became the frontrunners. Back when Giulani announced and started campaigning he was on top of the polls since the media covered him more then anyone.

You admit Paul didn't even campaign in the first few states so you blame the media for talking about people who actually WERE campaigning in those states. Giuliani wasn't running anywhere but Florida, and look where it got him: nowhere. Yet you still want to blame the media for Paul's own mistakes. Priceless.

[Ancalagon]

Originally Posted by Sunder

You admit Paul didn't even campaign in the first few states so you blame the media for talking about people who actually WERE campaigning in those states. Giuliani wasn't running anywhere but Florida, and look where it got him: nowhere. Yet you still want to blame the media for Paul's own mistakes. Priceless.

Are you a total fucking moron? Are you? Seriously, go do some homework before you post. For your own sake.

Which early states are you referring to that Ron Paul bypassed? Iowa? Uh, no, he didn't bypass Iowa. New Hampshire? Uh, no, didn't bypass New Hampshire. Michigan, South Carolina? No and no.

Absolutely NO idea what you're referring to.

[Sunder]

Well maybe I misread what Kaio was saying then. I thought he was saying Paul was like Giuliani in that he bypassed the first couple primaries/caucuses.

However, to deny Paul didn't make huge blunders during his campaign and try to blame everything on the media is just as moronic. Paul didn't stand a chance because he's a loon.

[Jait]

You Ron Paul people crack me up. This is just to rub the salt in the wound, and make you all realize that even Stalin thinks Ron Paul is a fucking moron.

Ron Paul raised 40,000,000
Huckabee raised 8,000,000 (650k prior to winning his first state: Iowa)

How'd they both do again? Oh yeah, Huckabee destroyed Romney's run with nothing but message. A message the media didn't carry unless he used the word "Holocaust". But it's the media's fault, not Ron "Bat-Shit insane" Paul rantings at the wall. And I'm sure someone among you mental giants has already said Huckabee is a media favorite or something along those lines. Guiliani had 4 years of media coverage, but apparantly unless you're on CNN within 48 hours of a primary/caucus, you stand no chance.

I learned that from Kaio and his Mighty Mind.

Ron Paul is not even worthy of discussion anymore. How'd he do yesterday? Nevermind, lets talk about numbers and call each other names and forget that 1% that kept rolling by the screen in each state. There's was another candidate 4 months ago at 1% what was his name.....

So, to all of the Ron Paul Weenies, grab a glass of his Kool-Aid and toast the world good-night! But unfortunately cyanide is made in Mexico, so you'll have to suffice with drain-cleaner.

[Draegan]

Nice post Jait.

[Dis]

Originally Posted by Jait

You Ron Paul people crack me up. This is just to rub the salt in the wound, and make you all realize that even Stalin thinks Ron Paul is a fucking moron.

Ron Paul raised 40,000,000
Huckabee raised 8,000,000 (650k prior to winning his first state: Iowa)

How'd they both do again? Oh yeah, Huckabee destroyed Romney's run with nothing but message. A message the media didn't carry unless he used the word "Holocaust". But it's the media's fault, not Ron "Bat-Shit insane" Paul rantings at the wall. And I'm sure someone among you mental giants has already said Huckabee is a media favorite or something along those lines. Guiliani had 4 years of media coverage, but apparantly unless you're on CNN within 48 hours of a primary/caucus, you stand no chance.

I learned that from Kaio and his Mighty Mind.

Ron Paul is not even worthy of discussion anymore. How'd he do yesterday? Nevermind, lets talk about numbers and call each other names and forget that 1% that kept rolling by the screen in each state. There's was another candidate 4 months ago at 1% what was his name.....

So, to all of the Ron Paul Weenies, grab a glass of his Kool-Aid and toast the world good-night! But unfortunately cyanide is made in Mexico, so you'll have to suffice with drain-cleaner.

You know what you are?

A downer

[Jimmy Carter wuwu]

Agree x 2 on Jait's post. Hopefully I will stop seeing the tards holding the paul revolution signs at four way traffic. Should change title of thread to something note worthy for the moment. Romney or MCcain, who stands a chance.

[Aulirophile]

Originally Posted by Jait

You Ron Paul people crack me up. This is just to rub the salt in the wound, and make you all realize that even Stalin thinks Ron Paul is a fucking moron.

Ron Paul raised 40,000,000
Huckabee raised 8,000,000 (650k prior to winning his first state: Iowa)

How'd they both do again? Oh yeah, Huckabee destroyed Romney's run with nothing but message. A message the media didn't carry unless he used the word "Holocaust". But it's the media's fault, not Ron "Bat-Shit insane" Paul rantings at the wall. And I'm sure someone among you mental giants has already said Huckabee is a media favorite or something along those lines. Guiliani had 4 years of media coverage, but apparantly unless you're on CNN within 48 hours of a primary/caucus, you stand no chance.

I learned that from Kaio and his Mighty Mind.

Ron Paul is not even worthy of discussion anymore. How'd he do yesterday? Nevermind, lets talk about numbers and call each other names and forget that 1% that kept rolling by the screen in each state. There's was another candidate 4 months ago at 1% what was his name.....

So, to all of the Ron Paul Weenies, grab a glass of his Kool-Aid and toast the world good-night! But unfortunately cyanide is made in Mexico, so you'll have to suffice with drain-cleaner.

If it gets to a brokered convention, which is looking more and more likely, how well the voting went doesn't matter. He could end up with single digit percent of the delegates going in and still become the nominee for President. Which actually is likely, a large number of the delegates like him because they come from the backbone of the party, who are really Conservatives and not Neocons.

Not even getting into the media argument again.

[Zhaun's_Shade]

What did Ron Paul do with all this money? I don't recall ever seeing or hearing about a Ron Paul TV ad. Huckabee has been doing a great job with stretching his dollars, what has Paul been doing?

[Aulirophile]

Originally Posted by Zhaun's_Shade

What did Ron Paul do with all this money? I don't recall ever seeing or hearing about a Ron Paul TV ad. Huckabee has been doing a great job with stretching his dollars, what has Paul been doing?

Supposedly a lot of it was spent advertising in ST states. Ron Paul has TV ads, but not living in an ST state I have no idea if that is what is was spent on. We'll know eventually what happened to all of it.

[Kaio]

Yes, I was talking about Giuliani when i said "he didn't campaign in the first few states."

Huckabee was smarter about compaigning probably but he also got more media coverage then Paul and his message resonated with massive numbers evangelicals quite easily (especially in Iowa).

Paul's message didn't resonate as easily with the general public for two reasons.

His answers weren't simple and close to fringe even if popular among certain experts in the field. Unless you get a lot of exposure and actually look at his positions in detail and here the opinions of economists, etc it doesn't do any good. I've only seen a bit of coverage on Kudlow/Kramers's CNBC financial program and several experts actually accepted and were enthusiastic about his ideas.

Firstly war on terror... When Bush exclaimed that Muslim's hate our freedom (despite the fact that Osama started Al Qaeda due to U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia from his old Afghan network) and the rest of the republican's touted the party line he had an astronomical 90% approval rating.

Paul was the only one back in the day to actually talk about blowback. This while it helped fuel his internet popularity, it didn't do much for mass media viewers and the general public.

Also when people hear things like, ZOMG Ron Paul is against the Department of Education they think he's against public education or something, when he really want's to just get rid of some failing bureaucracy. Same with the massive troop withdrawal.

He's the dream of those who like small government.

Everyone else is 95% about the same.

[Kaio]

Originally Posted by Jait

I learned that from Kaio and his Mighty Mind.

I'm sure that your criticizing (belittling rather) of everyone else's opinions makes your mind even more powerful. I bow to you Mr. Giant Super Mightly Mind. I wish I could be more like you. Sorry to not have been more detailed in a post that took less then a minute to make, the one above took 2 so it should be a little better.