Help me build a $7,000 monster.

EnigmaticParadigm · 10-02-2006, 07:52 PM

In December, I will finally put together the computer I've always wanted. It will be excessive and a complete misappropriation of funds (go go bonus check), but...m'eh. I've always wanted something "cutting edge;" even if it is for only two months or so before something better comes out.

So, I want to spend no more than $7000 for a desktop. This is to include appropriate software, speakers, monitor, keyboard, backup, etc, but not mouse (laser mouse <3).

My friend was saying that even having two video cards is not enough to push some of the larger monitors out there (truth?). Dunno; all I know is I want something big and widescreen.

Anyone help me out? When it is finished, I'll post what was purchased, and the final product.

Immy · 10-02-2006, 07:58 PM

www.alienware.com

http://www.alienware.com/Configurato...de=SKU-DEFAULT

Have fun! Wish I had that much money to blow

and make sure you get a Dual 1024MB NVIDIA® GeForce 7950 GX2 - Quad SLI Enabled,

EnigmaticParadigm · 10-02-2006, 08:02 PM

Should I go pre-packaged, or purchase all the parts separate and put them together? My friend always said Alienware, while good, was waaay overpriced.

Asmadai · 10-02-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EnigmaticParadigm

Should I go pre-packaged, or purchase all the parts separate and put them together? My friend always said Alienware, while good, was waaay overpriced.

You could probably put together a computer with those exact specifications for under $4,500 if you buy it seperately. I never understood why people paid so damn much for Alienware.

Zuuljin · 10-02-2006, 08:32 PM

Because when your spending $4500 on a friggin cpu, whats an extra 2 or 3 grand to be lazy enough not to build it yourself?

Immy · 10-02-2006, 08:35 PM

If you're spending 7000 dollars anyway, why not make sure you're going to be getting a long term warranty just to make sure if your mobo fries along with everything else in it you're covered?

I understand piecemealing a ghetto computer together through newegg or something. If your 85 dollar mobo blows up, who gives a shit? Buy a new one. If you're going top of the line and that mobo costs 200 dollars alone, wouldnt it make sense to have a warranty to back that up?

And no, you cannot get a 7000 dollar computer for 4500 dollars. Go make one up (without using CRAP components) and you'll see thats impossible.

If you want a top of the line computer you'll have to spend top of the line money.

Immy · 10-02-2006, 08:42 PM

If you want think of it this way. You're going to buy a new car. Is it smarter to buy a new car from a dealership with a 30,000 mile warranty, or buy a car with 150 miles on it with no warranty for 5% cheaper. Just the piece of mind you'll have alone is worth it.

Newegg = Used Car
Alienware = New Car with warranty.

Zuuljin · 10-02-2006, 08:46 PM

I would wait till november to buy this PC. Thats when the DX10 cards come out, which will last you ALOT longer then anything out right now. If your impatient and buy now, you really will be outgunned in 1 month.

sl4ck3r · 10-02-2006, 08:49 PM

most (perhaps all?) of the parts i've bought from newegg have been under warranty, and if there is a defect you can RMA and just get another.

shit my evga graphics card was lifetime warranty.

Immy · 10-02-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sl4ck3r

most (perhaps all?) of the parts i've bought from newegg have been under warranty, and if there is a defect you can RMA and just get another.

shit my evga graphics card was lifetime warranty.

You're talking about manufacturers warranties. My point is, if you're spending 7000 fucking dollars on a computer...why would you even want to BOTHER with manufacturers warrenties when you can get a 3 year warranty through alienware and just tell them "Motherfuckers fix this shit".

I completely agree with going the newegg route if you're spending 2000 dollars, but if you're buying a supercomputer, I'd want the fucking whole deal.

Vinen · 10-02-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Immy

You're talking about manufacturers warranties. My point is, if you're spending 7000 fucking dollars on a computer...why would you even want to BOTHER with manufacturers warrenties when you can get a 3 year warranty through alienware and just tell them "Motherfuckers fix this shit".

I completely agree with going the newegg route if you're spending 2000 dollars, but if you're buying a supercomputer, I'd want the fucking whole deal.

I have to agree with Meatwad here.

I personally built my own machine a month or two back when the Conroe came out... for ~1800.

If I was to be spending that much... I don't think I would have built it on my own...too much money to take risks... even if its going to cost you ~1000 more in the long run. The peace of mind is worth it.

Personally, I had to fucking RMA my Corsair XMS ram THREE FUCKING TIMES, before I got sticks which I could run at the adverstised speed of 5-5-5-12 without having errors. Corsair XMS ram fucking blows, get another companies... if you end up building on your own.

Tested, my ass.

Asmadai · 10-02-2006, 09:05 PM

You know, actually I was wrong.

I just built that entire computer, exactly (the EXACT name brand and part on the Alienware build) to Alienwares specifications, minus the exact monitor which New Egg did not have (I purchased one with exact specifications as the monitor Alienware listed), and I built it for less than $4,000.

Given, most people who buy from New Egg tend to have a general knowledge of computer hardware. If something of mine acts up, i'll fix it, or buy a replacement at a cheap rate. It's hardly what i'd call a 'ghetto computer'. I've not to have a single problem with it yet. Not a one. I've had more problems with a factory made computer in a month that i've had with mine in over a year, and that's fact.

If you are cool with 40% of the money you throw down on the Alienware being for a warranty, then go for it bud. I'm not the kind of guy who can pay $3,000 for a simple "in case it breaks" factor on a $4,000 computer, and can still sleep at night. If you really have the cash though, do what you want.

Iadien · 10-02-2006, 09:42 PM

Make sure you get a DX10 card.

soulfly24 · 10-02-2006, 09:44 PM

Build 2 $3500 dollar computers, that way if one breaks, you got a backup!

Vorph · 10-02-2006, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immy

You're talking about manufacturers warranties. My point is, if you're spending 7000 fucking dollars on a computer...why would you even want to BOTHER with manufacturers warrenties when you can get a 3 year warranty through alienware and just tell them "Motherfuckers fix this shit".

I'd rather spend ~$5k for the best of everything, with every part hand-picked by myself, and take the risk of having to deal with manufacturer's warranties or flat out replacing something (even if it's a $250 mobo) than get some half-assed overpriced machine from a company like Alienware. I would bet that Alienware is like Dell when it comes to their on-site warranties, wouldn't even be surprised if they use the same local contracts to take care of it. I've dealt with Dell several times for business clients and they fucking suck at fixing their shit in a timely manner.

10-02-2006, 07:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
EnigmaticParadigm Is Kermit gunna have to make a bitch go "GLARRRRGH?!" Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pre World War III America Posts: 2,423 +37 Internets	Help me build a $7,000 monster. In December, I will finally put together the computer I've always wanted. It will be excessive and a complete misappropriation of funds (go go bonus check), but...m'eh. I've always wanted something "cutting edge;" even if it is for only two months or so before something better comes out. So, I want to spend no more than $7000 for a desktop. This is to include appropriate software, speakers, monitor, keyboard, backup, etc, but not mouse (laser mouse <3). My friend was saying that even having two video cards is not enough to push some of the larger monitors out there (truth?). Dunno; all I know is I want something big and widescreen. Anyone help me out? When it is finished, I'll post what was purchased, and the final product. __________________

10-02-2006, 07:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Immy Right there above you. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 695 +1 Internets	www.alienware.com http://www.alienware.com/Configurato...de=SKU-DEFAULT Have fun! Wish I had that much money to blow and make sure you get a Dual 1024MB NVIDIA® GeForce 7950 GX2 - Quad SLI Enabled, Last edited by Immy : 10-02-2006 at 08:01 PM.

10-02-2006, 08:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
EnigmaticParadigm Is Kermit gunna have to make a bitch go "GLARRRRGH?!" Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pre World War III America Posts: 2,423 +37 Internets	Should I go pre-packaged, or purchase all the parts separate and put them together? My friend always said Alienware, while good, was waaay overpriced. __________________

10-02-2006, 08:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
sl4ck3r Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: md. Posts: 145 +1 Internets	most (perhaps all?) of the parts i've bought from newegg have been under warranty, and if there is a defect you can RMA and just get another. shit my evga graphics card was lifetime warranty. __________________ sl4ck3r.

10-02-2006, 09:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
soulfly24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 249 -1 Internets	Build 2 $3500 dollar computers, that way if one breaks, you got a backup! __________________

10-02-2006, 08:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zuuljin So there's this plane on a treadmill... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,904 +3 Internets	Because when your spending $4500 on a friggin cpu, whats an extra 2 or 3 grand to be lazy enough not to build it yourself?

10-02-2006, 08:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Immy Right there above you. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 695 +1 Internets	If you're spending 7000 dollars anyway, why not make sure you're going to be getting a long term warranty just to make sure if your mobo fries along with everything else in it you're covered? I understand piecemealing a ghetto computer together through newegg or something. If your 85 dollar mobo blows up, who gives a shit? Buy a new one. If you're going top of the line and that mobo costs 200 dollars alone, wouldnt it make sense to have a warranty to back that up? And no, you cannot get a 7000 dollar computer for 4500 dollars. Go make one up (without using CRAP components) and you'll see thats impossible. If you want a top of the line computer you'll have to spend top of the line money.

10-02-2006, 08:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Immy Right there above you. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 695 +1 Internets	If you want think of it this way. You're going to buy a new car. Is it smarter to buy a new car from a dealership with a 30,000 mile warranty, or buy a car with 150 miles on it with no warranty for 5% cheaper. Just the piece of mind you'll have alone is worth it. Newegg = Used Car Alienware = New Car with warranty.

10-02-2006, 08:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Zuuljin So there's this plane on a treadmill... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,904 +3 Internets	I would wait till november to buy this PC. Thats when the DX10 cards come out, which will last you ALOT longer then anything out right now. If your impatient and buy now, you really will be outgunned in 1 month.

10-02-2006, 09:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
Asmadai Monolith - Area 52 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sealab Posts: 2,293	You know, actually I was wrong. I just built that entire computer, exactly (the EXACT name brand and part on the Alienware build) to Alienwares specifications, minus the exact monitor which New Egg did not have (I purchased one with exact specifications as the monitor Alienware listed), and I built it for less than $4,000. Given, most people who buy from New Egg tend to have a general knowledge of computer hardware. If something of mine acts up, i'll fix it, or buy a replacement at a cheap rate. It's hardly what i'd call a 'ghetto computer'. I've not to have a single problem with it yet. Not a one. I've had more problems with a factory made computer in a month that i've had with mine in over a year, and that's fact. If you are cool with 40% of the money you throw down on the Alienware being for a warranty, then go for it bud. I'm not the kind of guy who can pay $3,000 for a simple "in case it breaks" factor on a $4,000 computer, and can still sleep at night. If you really have the cash though, do what you want.

10-02-2006, 09:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
Iadien Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 157 -1 Internets	Make sure you get a DX10 card.

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