Insanely huge hard drives

Hateyou · 02-24-2006, 05:44 PM

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/5...yte_harddrives

Anyone seen this yet? That's fucking crazy storage. Does enough porn exist to fill that? It will be interesting to find out~

Dintorr · 02-24-2006, 05:55 PM

I thought it was pretty much recognized that the only folks doing any real hard drive research is IBM. I suppose it's possible he's on to something, but I wouldn't bet my $$ on it.

GaliemVaelant · 02-24-2006, 05:57 PM

That's awesome, but he only has the method. He hasn't turned that into an experiment or a device yet. There are always surprises when things move off of paper. Even if he succeeds to make the device, we won't be seeing this for a long, long time. Anyone remember the video paper that will allow newspapers to become single animated sheets of paper with a little chip attached? They've even come up with a manufacturing method for that (three years ago, actually), and we aren't seeing it.

Taehoon · 02-25-2006, 12:49 AM

I want it, yesterday (read about this in 2004).

Storage is THE bottleneck in computers today. They say that the Internet2 is going to be immensely faster than the current internet. At this moment, I think there would be very recognized limits based upon a webserver's harddrive bandwidth. Carbon Nano Tube (CNT) RAM will hopefully play a big role and become extremely affordable in the next several years.

dak · 02-25-2006, 02:26 AM

Wow...

Never heard much about this Mike Thomas guy, sounds like he is some sorta prodigy.

Benito Fireslinger · 02-25-2006, 04:56 AM

some hdd company is working on a hdd that uses lasers to heat the platter instead of conventional magnets. This allows them to write a tighter bit pattern and increase storage to about 7.5 TB per square inch

Luthair · 02-25-2006, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Taehoon

I want it, yesterday (read about this in 2004).

Storage is THE bottleneck in computers today. They say that the Internet2 is going to be immensely faster than the current internet. At this moment, I think there would be very recognized limits based upon a webserver's harddrive bandwidth. Carbon Nano Tube (CNT) RAM will hopefully play a big role and become extremely affordable in the next several years.

While harddrives are a bottleneck because R&D has been focused on increasing storage size rather than speed..... sorta like this guy did.

Blaezenfury · 02-25-2006, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaliemVaelant

That's awesome, but he only has the method. He hasn't turned that into an experiment or a device yet. There are always surprises when things move off of paper. Even if he succeeds to make the device, we won't be seeing this for a long, long time. Anyone remember the video paper that will allow newspapers to become single animated sheets of paper with a little chip attached? They've even come up with a manufacturing method for that (three years ago, actually), and we aren't seeing it.

yeah i heard somthing that there's a new ink that conducts electricity. pretty badass.

Eida · 02-26-2006, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaezenfury

yeah i heard somthing that there's a new ink that conducts electricity. pretty badass.

.. A+

Eomer · 02-26-2006, 10:48 AM

He's right, actually. They're thinking it'll be really handy in basically "printing" fuses for bombs or fireworks and stuff that are perfectly timed by the length of the ink line.

ICELL · 02-26-2006, 11:42 AM

Screw hard drives...I just want a normal telephone to have greater than 300 - 3kHz bandwidth so I can actually understand what the person is saying on my damn answering machine.

Dintorr · 02-28-2006, 02:06 PM

Ok, this is a little more realistic, but still pretty far-out for just a PC:

8 TB desktop coming soon

Taehoon · 02-28-2006, 06:26 PM

8TB in disk capacity, but that will probably be split into 2 or 4 RAID5 arrays. 2 RAID 5 arrays brings the storage capacity down to 7TB (actually it will be less than that); 4 arrays will be sub 6TB.

At a price of $8k-$9k, not a lot of people will buy one of those.

Eomer · 02-28-2006, 08:48 PM

meh, my 1TB array was about 650 CDN for the drives, and the mobo had RAID 5 onboard (terrible write performance, but it's storage only so not a huge concern). And that was 8 months ago.

Dintorr · 03-01-2006, 06:04 AM

My guess is that they will be doing 2 arrays, of RAID-5 7+1, and will be using higher performance controllers than are found on a normal motherboard. I suspect they will also be using a decent amount of write cache, to help with the poor write performance of RAID-5.

If they are using the currently available 500GB SATA drives, then they could be paying ~$5,000 just for the drives. Add in the price of the controllers and the cache ... yeah, I can see where they get $8-9k.

That doesn't mean I'm gonna run out and buy one though. I can see this being popular in small companies that run Windows and are looking for a cheap NAS type solution.

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Hateyou Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,911 +0 Internets	Insanely huge hard drives http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/5...yte_harddrives Anyone seen this yet? That's fucking crazy storage. Does enough porn exist to fill that? It will be interesting to find out~ __________________ NaikoHatezyou.

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GaliemVaelant An Excellent Driver Join Date: May 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,693 +1 Internets	That's awesome, but he only has the method. He hasn't turned that into an experiment or a device yet. There are always surprises when things move off of paper. Even if he succeeds to make the device, we won't be seeing this for a long, long time. Anyone remember the video paper that will allow newspapers to become single animated sheets of paper with a little chip attached? They've even come up with a manufacturing method for that (three years ago, actually), and we aren't seeing it. __________________ "...And now I lay him down to sleep, and pray the lord my son could speak..."

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02-24-2006, 05:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dintorr space accountant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta, Chocolate City, USA Posts: 771 -2 Internets	I thought it was pretty much recognized that the only folks doing any real hard drive research is IBM. I suppose it's possible he's on to something, but I wouldn't bet my $$ on it.

02-25-2006, 12:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
Taehoon Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 518 +0 Internets	I want it, yesterday (read about this in 2004). Storage is THE bottleneck in computers today. They say that the Internet2 is going to be immensely faster than the current internet. At this moment, I think there would be very recognized limits based upon a webserver's harddrive bandwidth. Carbon Nano Tube (CNT) RAM will hopefully play a big role and become extremely affordable in the next several years.

02-26-2006, 10:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
Eomer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,518 +25 Internets	He's right, actually. They're thinking it'll be really handy in basically "printing" fuses for bombs or fireworks and stuff that are perfectly timed by the length of the ink line.

02-26-2006, 11:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
ICELL Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 86 -1 Internets	Screw hard drives...I just want a normal telephone to have greater than 300 - 3kHz bandwidth so I can actually understand what the person is saying on my damn answering machine.

02-28-2006, 02:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
Dintorr space accountant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta, Chocolate City, USA Posts: 771 -2 Internets	Ok, this is a little more realistic, but still pretty far-out for just a PC: 8 TB desktop coming soon

02-28-2006, 06:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Taehoon Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 518 +0 Internets	8TB in disk capacity, but that will probably be split into 2 or 4 RAID5 arrays. 2 RAID 5 arrays brings the storage capacity down to 7TB (actually it will be less than that); 4 arrays will be sub 6TB. At a price of $8k-$9k, not a lot of people will buy one of those.

02-28-2006, 08:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
Eomer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,518 +25 Internets	meh, my 1TB array was about 650 CDN for the drives, and the mobo had RAID 5 onboard (terrible write performance, but it's storage only so not a huge concern). And that was 8 months ago.

03-01-2006, 06:04 AM	#15 (permalink)
Dintorr space accountant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta, Chocolate City, USA Posts: 771 -2 Internets	My guess is that they will be doing 2 arrays, of RAID-5 7+1, and will be using higher performance controllers than are found on a normal motherboard. I suspect they will also be using a decent amount of write cache, to help with the poor write performance of RAID-5. If they are using the currently available 500GB SATA drives, then they could be paying ~$5,000 just for the drives. Add in the price of the controllers and the cache ... yeah, I can see where they get $8-9k. That doesn't mean I'm gonna run out and buy one though. I can see this being popular in small companies that run Windows and are looking for a cheap NAS type solution.