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Spare Oom and War Drobe · 10-09-2005, 09:15 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4324534.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4325092.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4325094.stm

Man as a whole is getting its collective ass handed to it this year. Next thing you know, that "bird flu" is going to mutate and kill half of asia

Kallian · 10-09-2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Spare Oom and War Drobe

kill half of asia

please.

dak · 10-09-2005, 09:51 PM

If half of Asia up and died the nitrogen from their rotting corpses would render the entire continent devoid of the ability to foster plant life.

Kallian · 10-09-2005, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dak

If half of Asia up and died the nitrogen from their rotting corpses would render the entire continent devoid of the ability to foster plant life.

mathematical proof please.

True Love · 10-09-2005, 10:02 PM

It's good the see that young people these days are nobody's fools, and demand sufficient evidence before believing the things they hear on the internets.

dak · 10-09-2005, 10:19 PM

Average amount of nitrogen in the average 150lb human is 4.5lb. The population of Asia is around 3,622,994,130. Half that is 1,811,497,065 making for 7,245,988,260 pounds or 3,622,994 tons of nitrogen.

Asia is 17,226,000 square miles in size making for a nitrogen load of 420.64 lb/square mile. The majority of a bodies nitrogen will be released into the environment after about 40-50 days. Soil pH below 5.5 is toxic to a large portion of plants, 420 lb/square mile would be past the critical load of acidity for these plants.

Designz · 10-09-2005, 10:29 PM

If the bird flu mutated, then half the world would die!

Spare Oom and War Drobe · 10-09-2005, 10:32 PM

... you do know that fungus, animals and microscopic life would break those bodies down. Yeah it would be a gross nasty mess but nature recycles itself

damn it my threads always derail

Phoenix · 10-09-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Spare Oom and War Drobe

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4324534.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4325092.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4325094.stm

Man as a whole is getting its collective ass handed to it this year. Next thing you know, that "bird flu" is going to mutate and kill half of asia

Bad shit happens when you live in shanties around disaster prone areas...

bcware · 10-09-2005, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dak

Average amount of nitrogen in the average 150lb human is 4.5lb. The population of Asia is around 3,622,994,130. Half that is 1,811,497,065 making for 7,245,988,260 pounds or 3,622,994 tons of nitrogen.

Asia is 17,226,000 square miles in size making for a nitrogen load of 420.64 lb/square mile. The majority of a bodies nitrogen will be released into the environment after about 40-50 days. Soil pH below 5.5 is toxic to a large portion of plants, 420 lb/square mile would be past the critical load of acidity for these plants.

Don't plants need nitrogen?
Isn't nitrogen actually a limiting factor for plant growth?
Don't symbiotic relationships between plants and microorganisms exist solely to provide plants with nitrogen?
Isn't fertilizer loaded with nitrogen?
How would nitrogen decrease the pH? (increase acidity) Seriously, if you're right about that enlighten me.

Worfless · 10-09-2005, 11:25 PM

how would all that affect the PA gold selling market?

Warrik · 10-09-2005, 11:32 PM

Kurt Vonnegut said it best...the Earth's immune system is trying to expell man like a bad virus.

Ronne · 10-09-2005, 11:42 PM

Birdflu is such a crock, it's the fucking flu, it's not gonna wipe out countries of people. Two years from now it will be in the same bin as the KILLAH BEEZ!!121one! and SARS.

GrobbeeTrull · 10-10-2005, 12:02 AM

Fertilizer burn is something I deal with daily. I make collection calls for Scott's Lawn Service. Too much fertilizer (ie: nitrogen) in one spot on your lawn = dead within days.

It kills just about all plantlife for a short period of time. And Dak is correct in assuming that it'd mess up the landscape. However, it'd only mess it up for a growing season or two, depending on precipitation. The next time around the land would be so fertile and lush you could probably grow anything you wanted, even if it's not exactly perfect climate for it. For instance, while waiting for the land to return to more suitable pH's you can grow berries of any type, since they thrive in acidic soil.

We could also just throw lime everywhere, water it in, and watch the pH return to suitable levels in roughly 1/3 the time.

The more I think about it from a horticultural point of view, the more I see "killing half of asia" as probably the most productive thing that could happen to that half of the world.

dak · 10-10-2005, 12:11 AM

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1. Don't plants need nitrogen?
2. Isn't nitrogen actually a limiting factor for plant growth?
3. Don't symbiotic relationships between plants and microorganisms exist solely to provide plants with nitrogen?
4. Isn't fertilizer loaded with nitrogen?
5. How would nitrogen decrease the pH? (increase acidity) Seriously, if you're right about that enlighten me.

1. Yes, but when enough is around to drop the pH of soil below 5.5 it causes the roots of plants to become soluble to to aluminium. Aluminium in roots is toxic.

2. Fixed nitrogen is.

3. The nitrogen is there, it's not "fixed" though and is unusable for organic consumption. The microorganisms/fungus "fix" the nitrogen, not provide it.

4. Loaded with Nitrate, you don't need to worry about nitrification producing hydrogen to acidify the soil.

5. When organic matter decomposes it releases nitrogen in the form of ammonia(NH4+). Nitrification occurs under oxidizing conditions....

2NH4+ (ammonium) + 3O2 --> 2NO3- (nitrate) + 4H+ (acidic hydrogen) + 2H2O

*think I balanced that right, it's late.

I may be wrong, it's been a while since I gave a damn about any of this stuff but I *think* that's how it works.

10-09-2005, 09:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
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10-09-2005, 10:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
dak Uhhhng Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: France Posts: 4,268	Average amount of nitrogen in the average 150lb human is 4.5lb. The population of Asia is around 3,622,994,130. Half that is 1,811,497,065 making for 7,245,988,260 pounds or 3,622,994 tons of nitrogen. Asia is 17,226,000 square miles in size making for a nitrogen load of 420.64 lb/square mile. The majority of a bodies nitrogen will be released into the environment after about 40-50 days. Soil pH below 5.5 is toxic to a large portion of plants, 420 lb/square mile would be past the critical load of acidity for these plants. __________________ Only Douche bags mess with the "Internets" points. RIP Spiderman-Troupe 2002-2008

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Ronne King for a night Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Harvard IL Posts: 4,204 +0 Internets	Birdflu is such a crock, it's the fucking flu, it's not gonna wipe out countries of people. Two years from now it will be in the same bin as the KILLAH BEEZ!!121one! and SARS.

10-10-2005, 12:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
GrobbeeTrull Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 1,685 +0 Internets	Fertilizer burn is something I deal with daily. I make collection calls for Scott's Lawn Service. Too much fertilizer (ie: nitrogen) in one spot on your lawn = dead within days. It kills just about all plantlife for a short period of time. And Dak is correct in assuming that it'd mess up the landscape. However, it'd only mess it up for a growing season or two, depending on precipitation. The next time around the land would be so fertile and lush you could probably grow anything you wanted, even if it's not exactly perfect climate for it. For instance, while waiting for the land to return to more suitable pH's you can grow berries of any type, since they thrive in acidic soil. We could also just throw lime everywhere, water it in, and watch the pH return to suitable levels in roughly 1/3 the time. The more I think about it from a horticultural point of view, the more I see "killing half of asia" as probably the most productive thing that could happen to that half of the world.