Are you a filthy bastard?

Eomer · 09-23-2005, 08:46 AM

http://www.livescience.com/othernews...rty_hands.html

Me personally? It depends on the situation and location. At home and work, I tend to wash my hands fairly regularly after using the bathroom. Number 2, for sure. Pissing? Well, sometimes I'll skip it, sometimes I won't. I tend to, you know, not piss all over my hands so often I don't see why it's even necessary. My dick is not filthy, touching it will not give me a horrible disease. And hey, urine's supposedly pretty sterile anyway!

But at say, a sporting event like they mention towards the end of the article? There is no way my hands are touching anything in that washroom, other than my own zipper and dick. Every single time those faucets are used, it goes like this: 1) guy who just finished pissing or shitting and has filthy hands approaches the lavatory, turns faucet handles with said filthy hands 2) washes off filthy hands 3) touches filthy faucet handles.

Step 3 is the problem. And sometimes there's further steps, like touching a dripping wet paper towel dispenser. Or a door handle covered in filth. Whatever. You clean your hands, then promptly cover them in fecal matter all over again. Why even bother? I don't shit in in a hockey arena (what the hell is wrong with people that they can't hold that in for a few hours?), just use the urinal. If I play my cards right, I don't touch a single thing with my hands other than my own unit, why should I wash my hands if it's just going to get them even more disgusting than they started?

I will make an exception, though, if the bathroom's relatively modern and it has either a Bradley basin (one of those big gang hand washers where you step on a bar around the thing on the ground to turn on the water) or the fancy automatic faucets with the sensor that turn them on and off. In both situations you don't end up touching the same object that 500 other filthy strangers just touched, so there's some benefit to doing that. IMO the damn things should be a code requirement for all new public washrooms, problem is they're about 5 times more expensive than a standard faucet.

As far as after petting pets and stuff, generally I tend to after petting my dog just cause if I rub my eyes they'll get a bit red. Not to mention I hate it when my hands smell like dog.

Lord Thanos · 09-23-2005, 09:05 AM

Nah I wash my hands often

On my way to work, first thing I do once I get to work is go to the bathroom and wash my hands (downtown A, E, C trains are filfthy)

Open faucet, use liquid soap, wash hands, go to paper towl dispenser, grab paper towel, use it to close faucet, trash it, grab another paper towel, dry hands, use same paper towel to open doors on my way back to my desk

It's disgusting how many people leave that same bathroom, while am there, WITHOUT washing their hands

I got into that routine after visiting my grandmother at the hospital ~2001, hospital bathrooms have these nice posters that tell you the proper way to wash your hands, and how to get out of the bathroom with clean hands

Before that, I admit, I used to close the same filthy faucet with my clean hands

Also, I don't use urinals, I use the stall, I flush the toilet with my foot, I'm not getting my hand anywhere near that handle

AngryGerbil · 09-23-2005, 09:06 AM

I work in EMS so I constantly have my hands all over disgusting bodily secretions. Last week for instance we moved a lady from off her bed in which the draw sheet was completely soaked in urine, a rancid foul smell if ever there was one, particularly when added to the UTI the lady had.

And even though I'm wearing latex gloves in situations like that I still scrub the shit out of my hands after a call. Or for calls like that one I go all the way up my arm, even above the elbow if possible.

I've also made it a habit to stick a few alcohol wipes in my pocket if I'm going to a big public gathering of any sort (sports event, concert, etc) just because, like Eomer said, there is no way in hell I would ever wash my hands in a public bathroom. Typically speaking a person's genitals aren't even that "dirty" anyway, they are not exposed and assuming most people wear clean underwear and take regular showers, it is actually one of the cleaner areas of your body. Your mouth is 1000x more filthy for instance so it's not like I'm spreading polio around just because I touched my dick and didn't wash my hands. No, the dirty part isn't you dick, it's your shit, or other people's shit. You really can get sick from just a microscopic amount of fecal matter getting on your fingers and then eventually your mouth.

Fun subject no? =)

Phoenix · 09-23-2005, 09:32 AM

Do you wash your hands after giving some a handshake? Do you wash your hands after opening a door?

While it will sound disgusting, not washing your hands after touching your johnson isnt really bad. I mean, it isnt the one picking things up and touching stuff all day long. But for public places, why shoes flush the toliet.

Fammaden · 09-23-2005, 09:41 AM

What do you think you have an immune system for?
It’s for killing germs!
And it needs germs to practice on…

-George Carlin

AngryGerbil · 09-23-2005, 09:46 AM

Carlin also refers to his immune system being so strong that his white blood cells can fight off polio. So we see the extent of his knowledge doesn't really go far. He's a funny guy and I love him to death but George is wrong. Being sanitary does not make you weaker.

Actually, a somewhat related article about this today on foxnews.com http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170188,00.html

Luthair · 09-23-2005, 10:12 AM

I use paper towels to turn faucets on and off in public restrooms. I also either use a paper towel on the door handle (because of you fuckers) or in the case of push doors I use my feet.

There was a medical study not that long ago which showed no notable difference in bacterial levels between people who use "anti-bacterial soap" and regular soap. (The study was done over a period of days or weeks.)

On a somewhat related note, I've read allergies are beneficial to your immune system.

James · 09-23-2005, 10:16 AM

I'm a filthy motherfucker, no doubt about it. After a honkin shit, it's not uncommon for me to wipe my ass with my hand and then lick it clean.

Eomer · 09-23-2005, 10:16 AM

Well, there's numerous studies that show that infants raised in overly sanitized environments are much more likely to develop allergies and asthma as they grow up, most likely because their immune systems are never given a chance to fight anything when they're developing as a baby.

So I'll be smearing my kids with fecal matter to make them strong.

Fammaden · 09-23-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AngryGerbil

Actually, a somewhat related article about this today on foxnews.com http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170188,00.html

Good to know. I use Dial at home for its antibacterial properties. I got started on this kick back when I was getting piercings and tattoos regularly.

The other product that the "super germ" theory gets applied to is the water free hand sanitizer. I always wondered about that since if you look at the package you will see that the active ingredient is not even something like triclosan but simply alcohol. Now assuming that the alcohol is killing germs in the same way that it seems to affect anything else, dehydrating, then I don't understand how immunity or resistance is built up. That is unless this is based on some sort of genetics whereby the hardiest germs survive the sanitizer to pass on their hardiness to new germs.

At any rate, I realize that Carlin is just doing a comedic routine. I also would hardly fault a person for being sanitary, especially in a high pathogen area like a hospital. But I do think some people take things too far. I always wash my hands in public restrooms. At home I wash my hands frequently, but I will often skip it in the bathroom if I have only urinated. I am very conscious of cross contamination when preparing food and my most anal-retentive hand washing and surface cleansing behavior tends to be when dealing with raw meats. I do however scoff at the people who use 50 paper towels in the restroom just to turn faucets on and off or open the door. As long as there isn’t a pile of shit smeared on the handle I don't see the big deal. I never seem to come down with any severe intestinal maladies from my reckless hand washing. Maybe I am just a filthy bastard. I can appreciate the extra caution in hand washing if you are a surgeon or something, but my immune system seems capable in handling the odd trace of fecal matter here and there.

I bet we have all eaten tons of nasty shit in our lifetime completely unaware. Most of the people I know who get this obsessive about such matters have no compunction about eating in restaurants. Having worked in food service for years at one point, I can say that if you think just because the plate is clean then your food was handled and prepared under the same exacting scrutiny that you use in the bathroom, then you are sadly mistaken.

Frawdo · 09-23-2005, 11:59 AM

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Are We Becoming a “No-Touch Society”?

Our current society is definitely not a “No-Touch” society. Touch is one of our five primary senses; we learn by it, find pleasure and comfort in it and keep safe by it. To eliminate it would be devastating. Our move to become a more global community and our increased mobility have provided a vehicle for increasing the numbers of foreign and mutated bacteria we must deal with in our daily living. As well, we have become a more educated society; educated in the risks of germs and bacteria and educated in the risks of disease and contamination. We are generally educated enough to know when it’s fine to touch something, and when it’s not.

Why do we educate ourselves about these risks? I don’t believe it’s because of fear. We educate ourselves because it’s the sensible thing to do. It’s widely known that humans are born with a natural instinct of self-preservation. A human will go to great lengths to ensure their own safety. So it’s only natural for humans to research and investigate things that pose a threat to their safety. Contamination is a threat, a serious one at that.

The recent decades have seen drastic improvements in our efforts to combat disease and contamination. At the turn of the century a crucial line of defence to combat the spread of disease was personal hygiene. School children were regularly inspected for clean fingernails, clear eyes and skin. While these inspections were certainly not a bad thing, by today’s standards they were a primitive way of dealing with the issue.
In this day and age, with our recent technological advances, we have found more effective ways of preventing contamination and infection. Latex gloves and anti-bacterial soap help us ensure that our hands don’t spread germs. Antibiotics kill bacteria in cases where infection has occurred. Regulations about open wounds are very strictly enforced in organized sports and high-risk public places such as pools and spas. These measures allow us to continue to appropriately contact or touch one another when the situation may warrant it.

With the onslaught of new diseases such as SARS and AIDS it is even more important for people to be educated. Information through education relieves our worry about the threats of these diseases and in turn this reduces our anxiety caused by fear of being isolated from our family and community when illness strikes.

We are not becoming a “No-Touch Society”. The idea of a no-touch society is ludicrous at best. In addition, our education and dealings with germs, bacteria, contamination and infection are not driven by fear. Being educated is a sound method of preventing unnecessary contamination before it happens. And, while some precautions may cause us slight inconveniences, in the long run our prevention education will help us live our lives to the fullest; allowing us to benefit from the crucial sense of the human touch.

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crrimson death · 09-23-2005, 01:47 PM

I t seems like your immune system would work similarly to the rest of your body. If you lift 30 pounds every day, eventually it will get easier. The first time it will be difficult.

If your immune system fights germs regularly, it will be easier that having to do so less often.

IMO!

Metranon · 09-23-2005, 02:58 PM

Quote:

I t seems like your immune system would work similarly to the rest of your body. If you lift 30 pounds every day, eventually it will get easier. The first time it will be difficult.

nice logic

maybe if you shoot yourself in the face everyday your body will develop a resistance to bullets

Eomer · 09-23-2005, 03:12 PM

lol, he's got somewhat of a point though. That's basically how vaccines work. They inject a wimpy form of the virus that they are vaccinating you for, and your immune system develops the right antibodies to fight the real thing. There's pretty much no such thing as a pharmaceutical cure for a virus, generally the treatment for a virus is just to beat down secondary symptoms and let your body concentrating on defeating the virus.

But constantly wallowing in a pile of biohazardous waste isn't exactly going to make you immune to AIDS. Although there's hundreds of documented cases of prostitutes who are pretty much immune to HIV. They have HIV, but don't exhibit the symptoms of AIDS.

Rune · 09-23-2005, 04:02 PM

Being a carrier is nothing new.

Typhoid Mary is old stuff.

09-23-2005, 08:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 10,202 +39 Internets	Are you a filthy bastard? http://www.livescience.com/othernews...rty_hands.html Me personally? It depends on the situation and location. At home and work, I tend to wash my hands fairly regularly after using the bathroom. Number 2, for sure. Pissing? Well, sometimes I'll skip it, sometimes I won't. I tend to, you know, not piss all over my hands so often I don't see why it's even necessary. My dick is not filthy, touching it will not give me a horrible disease. And hey, urine's supposedly pretty sterile anyway! But at say, a sporting event like they mention towards the end of the article? There is no way my hands are touching anything in that washroom, other than my own zipper and dick. Every single time those faucets are used, it goes like this: 1) guy who just finished pissing or shitting and has filthy hands approaches the lavatory, turns faucet handles with said filthy hands 2) washes off filthy hands 3) touches filthy faucet handles. Step 3 is the problem. And sometimes there's further steps, like touching a dripping wet paper towel dispenser. Or a door handle covered in filth. Whatever. You clean your hands, then promptly cover them in fecal matter all over again. Why even bother? I don't shit in in a hockey arena (what the hell is wrong with people that they can't hold that in for a few hours?), just use the urinal. If I play my cards right, I don't touch a single thing with my hands other than my own unit, why should I wash my hands if it's just going to get them even more disgusting than they started? I will make an exception, though, if the bathroom's relatively modern and it has either a Bradley basin (one of those big gang hand washers where you step on a bar around the thing on the ground to turn on the water) or the fancy automatic faucets with the sensor that turn them on and off. In both situations you don't end up touching the same object that 500 other filthy strangers just touched, so there's some benefit to doing that. IMO the damn things should be a code requirement for all new public washrooms, problem is they're about 5 times more expensive than a standard faucet. As far as after petting pets and stuff, generally I tend to after petting my dog just cause if I rub my eyes they'll get a bit red. Not to mention I hate it when my hands smell like dog. Last edited by Eomer : 09-23-2005 at 08:49 AM.

09-23-2005, 09:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lord Thanos Paisa y bien picado pa que vea! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: West New York, NJ Posts: 781 -2 Internets	Nah I wash my hands often On my way to work, first thing I do once I get to work is go to the bathroom and wash my hands (downtown A, E, C trains are filfthy) Open faucet, use liquid soap, wash hands, go to paper towl dispenser, grab paper towel, use it to close faucet, trash it, grab another paper towel, dry hands, use same paper towel to open doors on my way back to my desk It's disgusting how many people leave that same bathroom, while am there, WITHOUT washing their hands I got into that routine after visiting my grandmother at the hospital ~2001, hospital bathrooms have these nice posters that tell you the proper way to wash your hands, and how to get out of the bathroom with clean hands Before that, I admit, I used to close the same filthy faucet with my clean hands Also, I don't use urinals, I use the stall, I flush the toilet with my foot, I'm not getting my hand anywhere near that handle __________________ Last edited by Lord Thanos : 09-23-2005 at 09:09 AM.

09-23-2005, 09:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
AngryGerbil zero signal Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 3,555	I work in EMS so I constantly have my hands all over disgusting bodily secretions. Last week for instance we moved a lady from off her bed in which the draw sheet was completely soaked in urine, a rancid foul smell if ever there was one, particularly when added to the UTI the lady had. And even though I'm wearing latex gloves in situations like that I still scrub the shit out of my hands after a call. Or for calls like that one I go all the way up my arm, even above the elbow if possible. I've also made it a habit to stick a few alcohol wipes in my pocket if I'm going to a big public gathering of any sort (sports event, concert, etc) just because, like Eomer said, there is no way in hell I would ever wash my hands in a public bathroom. Typically speaking a person's genitals aren't even that "dirty" anyway, they are not exposed and assuming most people wear clean underwear and take regular showers, it is actually one of the cleaner areas of your body. Your mouth is 1000x more filthy for instance so it's not like I'm spreading polio around just because I touched my dick and didn't wash my hands. No, the dirty part isn't you dick, it's your shit, or other people's shit. You really can get sick from just a microscopic amount of fecal matter getting on your fingers and then eventually your mouth. Fun subject no? =) __________________ Doesn't speak the language. Holds no currency.

09-23-2005, 09:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
Fammaden Treats objects like women. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Posts: 2,803 +8 Internets	What do you think you have an immune system for? It’s for killing germs! And it needs germs to practice on… -George Carlin __________________ Fammaden - Wizard - Saryrn (Retired) WoW: Shaman/Mage/Hunter

09-23-2005, 09:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
AngryGerbil zero signal Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 3,555	Carlin also refers to his immune system being so strong that his white blood cells can fight off polio. So we see the extent of his knowledge doesn't really go far. He's a funny guy and I love him to death but George is wrong. Being sanitary does not make you weaker. Actually, a somewhat related article about this today on foxnews.com http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170188,00.html __________________ Doesn't speak the language. Holds no currency.

09-23-2005, 10:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
Luthair Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 967 -4 Internets	I use paper towels to turn faucets on and off in public restrooms. I also either use a paper towel on the door handle (because of you fuckers) or in the case of push doors I use my feet. There was a medical study not that long ago which showed no notable difference in bacterial levels between people who use "anti-bacterial soap" and regular soap. (The study was done over a period of days or weeks.) On a somewhat related note, I've read allergies are beneficial to your immune system.

09-23-2005, 10:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 10,202 +39 Internets	Well, there's numerous studies that show that infants raised in overly sanitized environments are much more likely to develop allergies and asthma as they grow up, most likely because their immune systems are never given a chance to fight anything when they're developing as a baby. So I'll be smearing my kids with fecal matter to make them strong.

09-23-2005, 01:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
crrimson death Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 235 -3 Internets	I t seems like your immune system would work similarly to the rest of your body. If you lift 30 pounds every day, eventually it will get easier. The first time it will be difficult. If your immune system fights germs regularly, it will be easier that having to do so less often. IMO!

09-23-2005, 03:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 10,202 +39 Internets	lol, he's got somewhat of a point though. That's basically how vaccines work. They inject a wimpy form of the virus that they are vaccinating you for, and your immune system develops the right antibodies to fight the real thing. There's pretty much no such thing as a pharmaceutical cure for a virus, generally the treatment for a virus is just to beat down secondary symptoms and let your body concentrating on defeating the virus. But constantly wallowing in a pile of biohazardous waste isn't exactly going to make you immune to AIDS. Although there's hundreds of documented cases of prostitutes who are pretty much immune to HIV. They have HIV, but don't exhibit the symptoms of AIDS.

09-23-2005, 04:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rune Bonafied Misanthrope Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ATX Posts: 913 -1 Internets	Being a carrier is nothing new. Typhoid Mary is old stuff.

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