The Bush administration fucks up again.

[Mippo]

No you can't blame Bush for a natural disaster. But you can blame the Bush administration for how unprepared the government was.

Since 1996 there was a project authorized by Congress called the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project or SELA.

It's purpose is to build and maintain the levees to protect the city against hurricanes and floods. Funding towards SELA has repeatedly been cut since 2003. The reason cited? The Iraq War.

In 2004, President authorized cutting the spending of SELA to less then 20% of what SELA required. Over the course of 2004, and 2005 the panel of SELA repeatedly requested aid to raise the levees protecting the city.

Even after the 2004 Hurricane season, President Bush continued to deny SELA the money required to properly protect the city. Reason cited? The Iraq War.

In 2004, President Bush cut the funding of SELA by 24.1 million dollars that was required to protect the city of New Orleans from flooding. In 2005, he denied a request by SELA for additional funding to protect the city of New Orleans.

The Senate was seeking to restore SELA's funding in 2006.... Little too late now don't you think?

In addition, guess which administration gutted FEMA?

And last but not least, it's estimated that 1/3rd of the Lousiana National Guard is currently in Iraq. You know, the people who were supposed to be there helping with the Hurricane and making sure people were properly prepared and given the help they need.

As soon as the initial shock wears off, and people start to realize this, you can expect extremely harsh criticism of the Bush administration. No, he didn't cause the hurricane, but he did repeatedly cut the funding of the organization in place to protect the city from flooding and removed the personnel that were supposed to be there preparing for the hurricane and helping.

All of the funding and personnel were cut because of the Iraq war. Think about that. The money that should've been going to help New Orleans prepare and protect themselves from this hurricane was cut by the Bush administration for the Iraq war.

[Dintorr]

The Federal spending budget is created in Congress.

One of the biggest criticism's of Bush in the past is that he's a free-spender.

[Vinen]

Originally Posted by Mippo

Something Retarded

Was just waiting for a fucking retard to blame Bush for it.

There is no fucking level of preparation that could have prevented what happend.

[Bison]

Originally Posted by Vinen

Was just waiting for a fucking retard to blame Bush for it.

There is no fucking level of preparation that could have prevented what happend.

Well, I wouldn't say NOTHING could have helped. If they had taken more of the money that they had dumped into "Beautification" of NO, they could have used some of that money to raise the physical level of the city, similar to what they did to Seattle, WA in the past. This would have helped prevent SOME of the problems that they were having due to this event, although I don't consider myself an expert on the ramifications on what would have happened BELOW the city in open areas. Take a look at the Seattle underground sites, there is a LOT of area "below" the city.

Who knows.

[Benito Fireslinger]

ill let you in on a little secret. Water is the most powerful force on the planet. It does what ever it wants when it wants. Spending billions of dollars on trying to fix a city that was poorly designed in the first part would not have stopped the levees from breaking.

Hopefully we will learn from this situation. My proposal is to bulid Evac buildings in the southern hurricane prone states that are circular and made from concrete and steel (think like a parking deck) and can house thousands of people. Make it as big around as it is tall so it isnt prone to falling down and round for aerodynamics. Also make it where helocopters can land on the roof dropping supplies.

Build a few in each state so people can goto this place for supplies/shelter etc, whena natural disaster hits.

[Lyrical]

Originally Posted by Mippo

No you can't blame Bush for a natural disaster. But you can blame the Bush administration for how unprepared the government was.

Since 1996 there was a project authorized by Congress called the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project or SELA.

It's purpose is to build and maintain the levees to protect the city against hurricanes and floods. Funding towards SELA has repeatedly been cut since 2003. The reason cited? The Iraq War.

In 2004, President authorized cutting the spending of SELA to less then 20% of what SELA required. Over the course of 2004, and 2005 the panel of SELA repeatedly requested aid to raise the levees protecting the city.

Even after the 2004 Hurricane season, President Bush continued to deny SELA the money required to properly protect the city. Reason cited? The Iraq War.

In 2004, President Bush cut the funding of SELA by 24.1 million dollars that was required to protect the city of New Orleans from flooding. In 2005, he denied a request by SELA for additional funding to protect the city of New Orleans.

The Senate was seeking to restore SELA's funding in 2006.... Little too late now don't you think?

In addition, guess which administration gutted FEMA?

And last but not least, it's estimated that 1/3rd of the Lousiana National Guard is currently in Iraq. You know, the people who were supposed to be there helping with the Hurricane and making sure people were properly prepared and given the help they need.

As soon as the initial shock wears off, and people start to realize this, you can expect extremely harsh criticism of the Bush administration. No, he didn't cause the hurricane, but he did repeatedly cut the funding of the organization in place to protect the city from flooding and removed the personnel that were supposed to be there preparing for the hurricane and helping.

All of the funding and personnel were cut because of the Iraq war. Think about that. The money that should've been going to help New Orleans prepare and protect themselves from this hurricane was cut by the Bush administration for the Iraq war.

Did you even think before you posted this one? Spending is determined by Congress, and not just the President.

[Zarcath]

I read in the newspaper how people were pointing fingers at Bush for not being prepared. I think it's bullshit.

Where were the city officials and city planners? Everytime I see the news I just see people going "HELP ME I'M HELPLESS DO SOMETHING". And I see old WWII footage and you don't see civilians whining about SHIT. They get fucking bombed and what do they do? Pick up and start rebuilding. Everyone is standing around saying "Wow I hope my insurance guys come and fix this shit right now".

I read about the Astrodome conditions. People sleeping in urine, crack bottles in the bathrooms, people getting fucking raped in there. What the fuck! That wouldn't have happened if there was some organization. Not only on the governments part, Bush is only one guy, what ever happened to community leaders?

See, I think that if each district or something had community leaders that had disaster training, and there were designated safety zones (high ground, stable structures, etc), then the chaos wouldn't be so bad.

People starving is crazy. I know almost everyone in Hawaii has canned goods incase of a Hurricane.

My brain was bumfucking baffled that people would chose to live in place below sea level and actually think some walls would protect them from the ocean, and then not buy any kind of floatation device. If I were looting I'd go to fucking Sports Authority and get me an inflatable boat.

People sitting on rooftops waiting for helicopters to rescue them...get some wood off your broken ass house and make a raft.

Sorry it's harsh, but in times of survival they need to help themselves, it's pretty sad to see so many people acting helpless. Yeah, terrible tragedy, it happened, lets get moving. And don't get me started on how celebrities are "cashing in" on this, Serena Williams has some shit like every ace shot she gets over the next year she'll donate $100 to charity. What the fuck?

[Frax]

When the weatherman says "Hey there is a huge fucking hurricane coming right at us!" and then followed by the word "Evacuation".. do people think that shit is a joke?

[titan_atlas]

Originally Posted by Zarcath

People starving is crazy. I know almost everyone in Hawaii has canned goods incase of a Hurricane.

I think I am seriously underprepared thanks for the reminder Brudduh.

[Frax]

I doubt any people who were healthy after the storm passed have died from starvation, it's just not really possible.

[Zarcath]

Well not sure about starving, I know people were going without water for 2-3 days. For a nation balls-to-the-wall over bottled water I find that strange. In my house we've got a 12 pack of 2 liter water bottles.

[Bison]

Originally Posted by Frax

When the weatherman says "Hey there is a huge fucking hurricane coming right at us!" and then followed by the word "Evacuation".. do people think that shit is a joke?

Quoted because it's so fucking true... Shit, STEAL a car and get the fuck out of there.

[Mero]

Originally Posted by Frax

When the weatherman says "Hey there is a huge fucking hurricane coming right at us!" and then followed by the word "Evacuation".. do people think that shit is a joke?

Supra.

I can honestly say Mippo that there isn't one sentence in your entire post I agree with. Sorry Bro.

[NoStem]

Anyone else just feel sorry for President Bush? Clinton didn't have to fucking deal with both the worst terrorist attack and natural disaster in history on American soil - not to mention the rest of the shit thats been happening in the last few years.

[NoStem]

Originally Posted by titan_atlas

I think I am seriously underprepared thanks for the reminder Brudduh.

rofl... same, I ain't got shit for "supplies." Although, I have an orchard that has a few dozen fruit trees. Hawaii can handle itself better than any other state though when it comes to the "being stuck in a shit storm with no help," due to the bounty of natural resources and the low population when you disregard the tourists. I think the looting would be off the charts with all the ice heads though... especially since our entire states' police force is corrupt as fuck, which in turn would more than likely give rise to marshall law under soverign nation 6'8 400lb samoan moaks :/