$1500 Computer. Feedback Desired!

Ham n Cheese · 08-13-2005, 02:08 AM

I must apologize for posting another thread so shortly and it again being computer related, that said.... please continue.

Trying to spend no more than $1500. I for sure want a top of the line card and SATA II (16MB version). Realize I'm missing the power supply, I get an Antec 480W from work for around $50. Appreciate any comments regarding these products or suggestions on what to get instead. Pretty happy with this setup for the price, can probably get some items cheaper at work, but this is more about the products, less about the price.

NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM
$42.99 $42.99

COOLER MASTER Praetorian PAC-T01-EK Black All Aluminium Alloy ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
$108.50 $108.50

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
$122.00 $122.00

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
$164.00 -$10.00 Instant
$154.00

OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Platinum System Memory Model OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K - Retail
$27.00 Mail-in Rebate
$259.95

[combo]
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3700BNBOX - Retail

ASUS EN7800GTX/2DHTV/256 Geforce 7800GTX 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

$848.00 -$50.00 Combo
$798.00

Subtotal: $1,485.44

Designz · 08-13-2005, 02:14 AM

Hmm, are you sure you don't want faster ram? The new San Diego core is a crazy overclocker DROOLLLLLLLLLLLLLl, I hear it can go from 2.2 to 2.6 easily WoWoWOwowoOWwo

Anyway, I'm pretty sure your system can take much faster ram than that, try to look at some reviews of OCZ 4000VX or whatever, it's nice for the 939 I think... Not sure how much you can overclock that OCZ PC3200

Ham n Cheese · 08-13-2005, 02:17 AM

How's the heat on it when it gets bumped up to 2.6?

Designz · 08-13-2005, 02:22 AM

Um, virtually no heat at all, I SWEAR THAT THING IS A MONSTERRRRRRR, I am jealous.

You can do 2.2 to 2.6 STOCK VOLTAGeeeee, heat = nope, lemme find some links of OCing that beast:

http://www.bleedinedge.com/reviews/p...-Diego_03.html

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=6&t=8506 - people saying Venice is better value, but I don't think you're after value here!

The balance of this is the amazing overclockability of this particular sample. If you look at it in comparison with AMD's other 1MB L2 cache processors, it's an absolute performance bargain, at under less than half the price of an FX55, and $100 less than even a 4000 San Diego. Yet the 3700 San Diego reaches 2.7GHz at stock vcore and using stock cooling! Incredible!

Phoenix · 08-13-2005, 02:40 AM

I have some OCZ pc4000VX. If youre gonna get it, make sure your mobo supports 3.3v!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mine only supports 3.2v so I cant run it at its rated speed and timings.

Eomer · 08-13-2005, 10:01 AM

If you get VX memory from OCZ, you pretty much have to have a DFI board. There's one or two others that go to 3.5V, my lanparty will do 4v.

System seems pretty nice to me, really. Couple personal preference things, but otherwise I'd take it.

The Dauntless One · 08-13-2005, 01:30 PM

pheonix did u burn in your ram? most winbond stuff can do 250 2-2-2-5 at 3.2v if you do it right
and that computer is shwing man
btw overclocking computer doesn't affect games that much if you already have the resource
and venice is not better value...the later weeks for venice are not clocking as good as the earlier ones did a la winchesters and you need really expensive ram that can do DDR550-600 to run it 1:1 so u dont lose performance from mem divider

now the contribution: i dont like the case

Ham n Cheese · 08-13-2005, 01:44 PM

I'm thinking of going with a 10KRPM drive instead of the SATAII drives due to the limitations, and drives are realistically just around 70-5ish mbs.

Phoenix · 08-13-2005, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dauntless One

pheonix did u burn in your ram? most winbond stuff can do 250 2-2-2-5 at 3.2v if you do it right
and that computer is shwing man
btw overclocking computer doesn't affect games that much if you already have the resource
and venice is not better value...the later weeks for venice are not clocking as good as the earlier ones did a la winchesters and you need really expensive ram that can do DDR550-600 to run it 1:1 so u dont lose performance from mem divider

now the contribution: i dont like the case

Thats why I got the 4000VX. I read that quite a few people where able to get their memory to do 250 2-2-2-8 with only 3.2v. Im using the DFI NF3 Ultra D and it only supports a maxof 3.2v. Probably going to be picking up a DDR booster here soon though.

Ham n Cheese · 08-13-2005, 03:55 PM

Thinking of subbing the memory above with the following(x2). I'm having problems finding 1GB dual sticks of anything over 3200. Price starts getting pretty high now too.

Kasonic · 08-13-2005, 04:23 PM

Required accessories:

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/perip...ard-116969.php
http://www.dvhardware.net/article6343.html

The Dauntless One · 08-13-2005, 04:42 PM

http://www.atacom.com/program/print_...K1&USER_ID=www
good 2x1gig ram

The Dauntless One · 08-13-2005, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Thats why I got the 4000VX. I read that quite a few people where able to get their memory to do 250 2-2-2-8 with only 3.2v. Im using the DFI NF3 Ultra D and it only supports a maxof 3.2v. Probably going to be picking up a DDR booster here soon though.

maybe you missed it in my post
you should leave it at 3.2 volts and BURN IN the ram...download this program called memtest86
run memtest i think at test 7 and leave it on
you can find this on the web

Ham n Cheese · 08-13-2005, 06:00 PM

I already have a MX-1000 laser mouse (love it), I've never seen the point in an expensive keyboard though. I use the $10 GE one from work (I get for like $4). When we get those new logitechs in stock I'll be sure to return my current mouse for that though.

Thanks for the link TDO, that's the RAM I want for sure... going from $1500 to $1700 doesn't seem like much, but $1500 was already kind of a stretch for me. Will probably get it anyway.

Nikkohung You · 08-13-2005, 10:16 PM

Without SLI i find your computer lacking.

08-13-2005, 02:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ham n Cheese You can betray me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 8,926 +18 Internets	$1500 Computer. Feedback Desired! I must apologize for posting another thread so shortly and it again being computer related, that said.... please continue. Trying to spend no more than $1500. I for sure want a top of the line card and SATA II (16MB version). Realize I'm missing the power supply, I get an Antec 480W from work for around $50. Appreciate any comments regarding these products or suggestions on what to get instead. Pretty happy with this setup for the price, can probably get some items cheaper at work, but this is more about the products, less about the price. NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM $42.99 $42.99 COOLER MASTER Praetorian PAC-T01-EK Black All Aluminium Alloy ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $108.50 $108.50 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $122.00 $122.00 ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $164.00 -$10.00 Instant $154.00 OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Platinum System Memory Model OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K - Retail $27.00 Mail-in Rebate $259.95 [combo] AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3700BNBOX - Retail ASUS EN7800GTX/2DHTV/256 Geforce 7800GTX 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $848.00 -$50.00 Combo $798.00 Subtotal: $1,485.44

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Ham n Cheese You can betray me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 8,926 +18 Internets	Thinking of subbing the memory above with the following(x2). I'm having problems finding 1GB dual sticks of anything over 3200. Price starts getting pretty high now too. Last edited by Ham n Cheese : 08-13-2005 at 03:59 PM.

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08-13-2005, 02:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
Designz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 567 -17 Internets	Hmm, are you sure you don't want faster ram? The new San Diego core is a crazy overclocker DROOLLLLLLLLLLLLLl, I hear it can go from 2.2 to 2.6 easily WoWoWOwowoOWwo Anyway, I'm pretty sure your system can take much faster ram than that, try to look at some reviews of OCZ 4000VX or whatever, it's nice for the 939 I think... Not sure how much you can overclock that OCZ PC3200

08-13-2005, 02:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ham n Cheese You can betray me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 8,926 +18 Internets	How's the heat on it when it gets bumped up to 2.6?

08-13-2005, 02:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
Designz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 567 -17 Internets	Um, virtually no heat at all, I SWEAR THAT THING IS A MONSTERRRRRRR, I am jealous. You can do 2.2 to 2.6 STOCK VOLTAGeeeee, heat = nope, lemme find some links of OCing that beast: http://www.bleedinedge.com/reviews/p...-Diego_03.html http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=6&t=8506 - people saying Venice is better value, but I don't think you're after value here! The balance of this is the amazing overclockability of this particular sample. If you look at it in comparison with AMD's other 1MB L2 cache processors, it's an absolute performance bargain, at under less than half the price of an FX55, and $100 less than even a 4000 San Diego. Yet the 3700 San Diego reaches 2.7GHz at stock vcore and using stock cooling! Incredible!

08-13-2005, 10:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 10,202 +39 Internets	If you get VX memory from OCZ, you pretty much have to have a DFI board. There's one or two others that go to 3.5V, my lanparty will do 4v. System seems pretty nice to me, really. Couple personal preference things, but otherwise I'd take it.

08-13-2005, 01:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
The Dauntless One Flaccid Steel Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,471 -11 Internets	pheonix did u burn in your ram? most winbond stuff can do 250 2-2-2-5 at 3.2v if you do it right and that computer is shwing man btw overclocking computer doesn't affect games that much if you already have the resource and venice is not better value...the later weeks for venice are not clocking as good as the earlier ones did a la winchesters and you need really expensive ram that can do DDR550-600 to run it 1:1 so u dont lose performance from mem divider now the contribution: i dont like the case

08-13-2005, 01:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ham n Cheese You can betray me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 8,926 +18 Internets	I'm thinking of going with a 10KRPM drive instead of the SATAII drives due to the limitations, and drives are realistically just around 70-5ish mbs.

08-13-2005, 04:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
Kasonic dumb Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,627 +1 Internets	Required accessories: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/perip...ard-116969.php http://www.dvhardware.net/article6343.html

08-13-2005, 04:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
The Dauntless One Flaccid Steel Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,471 -11 Internets	http://www.atacom.com/program/print_...K1&USER_ID=www good 2x1gig ram

08-13-2005, 06:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ham n Cheese You can betray me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 8,926 +18 Internets	I already have a MX-1000 laser mouse (love it), I've never seen the point in an expensive keyboard though. I use the $10 GE one from work (I get for like $4). When we get those new logitechs in stock I'll be sure to return my current mouse for that though. Thanks for the link TDO, that's the RAM I want for sure... going from $1500 to $1700 doesn't seem like much, but $1500 was already kind of a stretch for me. Will probably get it anyway.