MS AntiSpy: No more free porsches.

[Lefazz]

Originally posted by Kreugen
Hurray for security through obscurity! Your windows users can delete system files? Nice setup dude.

My POINT is, that you CAN. Not just YOU, but any virus or errant program can dive right on in and start deleting important system files willy nilly. You can't do that in Unix.

[Aldarion_Shard]

Thats hysterical, the notion that if a machine runs badly after years of operation without a reformat/reinstall, and after uninstalling/reinstalling doxes of drivers, that its somehow a Bad Operating System.

If you go more than 6-12 months without a reformat/reinstall, you deserve what you get.

Its like when people complain that their system got unstable after they left the conputer turned on for 2 weeks straight. newsflash genius, reboot it and your problems will be fixed... and the same goes for the reofrmat thing - of COURSE things get unstable after a long time. Welcome to the universe.

[krazrussian]

"i dunno if its just me but, firefox runs very slow compared to IE "

I've actually noticed this too. Dunno, I know everyone and their mother loves Firefox but I swear on my PC IE runs better.

[Lefazz]

Originally posted by Aldarion_Shard
If you go more than 6-12 months without a reformat/reinstall, you deserve what you get.

And THAT is hysterical that you think that's the norm.

[Neferata]

Heh, I don't see why you should have to reformat every 6-12 months if you actually take care of your PC, I could probably go two years or so without a reformat just because I keep my comp clean, it's not like software deteriorates over time like hardware does.

I'm honestly dumbfounded that there are people who actually don't own any form of anti-virus, don't run any anti-spyware programs and wonder why their comp is such a piece of shit. It's not that hard to take care of your computer morons. Let me guess, these people don't clean their rooms either and then they wonder why it's dirty and smells like a dumpster.

I guess now we know who CompUSA can thank for keeping their shitty store in business.

[Olio]

There are unix distributions that are easy to run. For example OSX runs on a unix core and people don't typically complain about how hard to use Apple computers are. If you want to see the latest in Linux ease of use I recommend you burn an Ubuntu Live or Knoppix CD. You just put the CD in and reboot to run it, then when you've had enough you take the CD out and reboot back to whatever you had before. There is even a similar game CD that you can try out. The games are just random open source ones but it doesn't cost anything to try or use.

Olio

[Kreugen]

Originally posted by Lefazz
My POINT is, that you CAN. Not just YOU, but any virus or errant program can dive right on in and start deleting important system files willy nilly. You can't do that in Unix.

So you are saying if you are a unix user you can't delete files, but if you are a windows administrator, you can? Well fucking duh? There's something called "root" you know. That's the equivalent to the windows administrator and yes, it can delete whatever the fuck it wants. Willy nilly even. You can create user accounts and permissions in windows if you really wanted to, you know. Very nice if you share the pc with inbreds.

Linux = 65% of all breakins across internet connected machines. Out of how much of the market share? Its all about how things are configured by default.

[Quineloe]

Originally posted by Lefazz
I'm sorry, if you don't know how to use MSCONFIG and know how to boot into safe mode, you probably should be sticking to gaming consoles or web TVs, or get a Mac.

tell that the millions of people using PCs for work. Protection software should be easy to use, after all even the most experienced system engineer will suffer from another multi billion dollar damage worm.

and don't say you're sorry when you are not =P

[FuckYou]

don't MS bash for no reason. The only fault I have with the company is over pricing and agressive buisness tactics.

yeah, who cares that their piece of shit OS'es cause trillions of dollars in lost revenue every year due to time lost while IT departments either repair or reinstall the whole OS due to exploited code resulting from massive, gaping security holes. fucktard.

Because *nix never has secruity flaws?
Say what you want, XP is rock fucking solid. It might be way over priced but it is solid software.

This guy is killing me.

Solid in what sense? In the sense that everything that requires a smidgeon of intelligence to operate has been dumbed down to a retarded wizard? Solid in the sense that there are so many problems with windows at large that the automatic update service has to be running constantly lest it protest so much that you must eventually allow it to?

get a clue. here's the CERT website - omfg are all those WINDOWS EXPLOITS on the Current Activity list? in fact I challenge you to count the number of Windows vs. Unix exploits discovered in the last six months.

http://www.us-cert.gov/current/current_activity.html

edit: fuck. here's about 40 vulnerabilities in IE in the last three months.

http://search.us-cert.gov/query.html...859-1&ql=a&qt=

[Kreugen]

Security through obscurity again. Most users = the most flaws found. Wow, you don't say!? You mean the 600,000 people playing warcraft now are finding more bugs and exploits within a few weeks than we did through months of beta? Brilliant! You mean advertisers only target the most popularly used OS? Egads!

If there was a better alternative, we'd all be using it.

Unix, woo. My hardware is minimally supported, everything with any attempt at graphics and a GUI runs slower, I go blind editing .conf files and my software choices are greatly limited to free programs that are blatant rip offs of others commercial work. Where do I sign up for that goodness?

I should stop before god sees fit to make me a nix admin.

[FuckYou]

"Security through obscurity again. Most users = the most flaws found. Wow, you don't say!? You mean the 600,000 people playing warcraft now are finding more bugs and exploits within a few weeks than we did through months of beta? Brilliant! You mean advertisers only target the most popularly used OS? Egads!"

Horseshit. Since MS has at the customers, they should have all the money (which they do), and thus all the resources to write a secure OS. Which they have never done. Your excuses are the some old trite BS.

Apache (primarily run on unix/linux) hosts over half of the total internet sites on the internet. Where are the DAILY security holes in Apache, or the OS it runs on?

"Unix, woo. My hardware is minimally supported, everything with any attempt at graphics and a GUI runs slower, I go blind editing .conf files and my software choices are greatly limited to free programs that are blatant rip offs of others commercial work. Where do I sign up for that goodness?"

Standard FUD post. Your inability to effectively operate the system is not th fault of the system itself.

Sure its harder to use and less polished. It's also not a smoking pile of shit riddled with barn sized security issues.

By using windows you trade security for ease of use. Refute it if you can.

[Kreugen]

Look up the origin of the name "Apache." Its not platform dependant anyway.

[Luthair]

Originally posted by Lefazz
Rock solid in what regard? Sure it's rock solid after a nice fresh install. But what about a year later after the registry has bloated to 100 million lines? After uninstalling/reinstalling new drivers for your hardware a dozen times?

Those issues aren't really the fault of the OS, shit programs and bloated drivers ftw! What ever happened to a driver telling the OS how to talk to the hardware and not installing 12033 programs with AOL/EBay links.

Originally posted by Lefazz
Unix will always be secure for the simple fact that the USER CANNOT FUCK WITH SYSTEM FILES. Do this right now in XP : Open up a command prompt, type CD \ then type DEL *.* /s

How fucking rock solid is that?

*nix all have kernel flaws that allow local (as in anyone with an account) to gain root access.

[FuckYou]

i dont need to. it was "a patchy" server they kludged together from the older cern HTTPD server.

now, did you want to address any of the points?

[FuckYou]

"*nix all have kernel flaws that allow local (as in anyone with an account) to gain root access."

ok l33t haxx0r.

btw that is also horseshit.