MS/Cisco/Comtia certs - Page 4

chaos · 01-28-2008, 09:40 PM

Marthisdil I'm curious, do you work in the government contracting industry? I don't understand the mentality of not hiring inexperienced people for junior positions. And your starting pay for a CCIE seems extremely low.

Rhuobhe · 02-12-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Maio

I wouldn't say that with the new A+ exams, at least not with the IT Technician elective. A+ Essentials is meh; A+ IT Technician is "not-so-meh". Network+ is pure crap, I have no idea why I even bothered studying for it.

I like the Net+ it covers all the basic fundamental of networking that anyone getting into IT should know (subnetting, osi model etc). Although CCNA is the same shit but more useful.

I never considered A+ a serious IT cert. It is quite useful for getting a job at best buy geek squad.

Security+ is useful as an MCSE elective

MrGraham · 07-07-2008, 12:38 PM

Bump.

My job got us some free online training classes in 100+ categories for IT, and they pay for certs so I decided to pick one up. I went with Net+ first because it was the one that I had the most content covered by experience and just finished it last weekend. It was pretty painless but man some of the questions were worded like shit.

First of all, I'd like to say - Holy fuck these certifications are the best pyramid schemes of all time. Let's make a test, the content of which has little bearing on the real world (when am I ever going to need to know what port IMAP4 uses AND not be able to do a 20 second Google search to find out?), and then convince employers it's the sign of a good employee to be able to memorize said test content. From this, we can spring more companies that make their living selling books or classes on the material. It's genius and amazing.

Secondly - help me decide what next. MCSE would fit best in with my current job, but I'm just not that interested in it. CCNA would be the next logical step after Net+, but really I'd like something less technically oriented. I was thinking about ITIL, but the only information I can find on it is pretty vague - just that it's really expensive. Is ITIL just tests or are the courses mentioned REQUIRED? I'm a good test taker, so if it's just exams I'd be more interested in it, but required expensive courses will kill it for me.

How about accounting stuff? I'm interested in cost analysis/efficiency, both from an IT standpoint and in general. Obviously college would probably be the best, but if that's not an option are there "low level" accounting type certifications? I know there's upper level ones.

If there's not a good option for non technical stuff, how difficult is getting an SQL DBA cert? Really I'd rather just get some coding experience, but if I'm not using it in a job setting then teaching myself some OOP is going to mean jackshit I've found.

Le sigh. I kind of regret getting into IT but I have no idea what to do instead.

MrGraham · 07-07-2008, 01:38 PM

Also - How are there not IT unions at this point? I can't believe we haven't seen anything like one emerge at this point.

chaos · 07-07-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGraham

Also - How are there not IT unions at this point? I can't believe we haven't seen anything like one emerge at this point.

One word: INDIA.

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01-28-2008, 09:40 PM	#46 (permalink)
chaos Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4,368 +6 Internets	Marthisdil I'm curious, do you work in the government contracting industry? I don't understand the mentality of not hiring inexperienced people for junior positions. And your starting pay for a CCIE seems extremely low.

07-07-2008, 12:38 PM	#48 (permalink)
MrGraham Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 922 +1 Internets	Bump. My job got us some free online training classes in 100+ categories for IT, and they pay for certs so I decided to pick one up. I went with Net+ first because it was the one that I had the most content covered by experience and just finished it last weekend. It was pretty painless but man some of the questions were worded like shit. First of all, I'd like to say - Holy fuck these certifications are the best pyramid schemes of all time. Let's make a test, the content of which has little bearing on the real world (when am I ever going to need to know what port IMAP4 uses AND not be able to do a 20 second Google search to find out?), and then convince employers it's the sign of a good employee to be able to memorize said test content. From this, we can spring more companies that make their living selling books or classes on the material. It's genius and amazing. Secondly - help me decide what next. MCSE would fit best in with my current job, but I'm just not that interested in it. CCNA would be the next logical step after Net+, but really I'd like something less technically oriented. I was thinking about ITIL, but the only information I can find on it is pretty vague - just that it's really expensive. Is ITIL just tests or are the courses mentioned REQUIRED? I'm a good test taker, so if it's just exams I'd be more interested in it, but required expensive courses will kill it for me. How about accounting stuff? I'm interested in cost analysis/efficiency, both from an IT standpoint and in general. Obviously college would probably be the best, but if that's not an option are there "low level" accounting type certifications? I know there's upper level ones. If there's not a good option for non technical stuff, how difficult is getting an SQL DBA cert? Really I'd rather just get some coding experience, but if I'm not using it in a job setting then teaching myself some OOP is going to mean jackshit I've found. Le sigh. I kind of regret getting into IT but I have no idea what to do instead.

07-07-2008, 01:38 PM	#49 (permalink)
MrGraham Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 922 +1 Internets	Also - How are there not IT unions at this point? I can't believe we haven't seen anything like one emerge at this point.