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[Azrayne]

I've never actually completely hullucinated on LSD, I didn't think it was possible. I've seen lots of cool lights/patterns, things blurring/melting/distorting, and had all sorts of weird thoughts and headfucks, but I've never straight up seen something that just isn't there.

[jayrebb]

Originally Posted by Azrayne

I've never actually completely hullucinated on LSD, I didn't think it was possible. I've seen lots of cool lights/patterns, things blurring/melting/distorting, and had all sorts of weird thoughts and headfucks, but I've never straight up seen something that just isn't there.

Have you tried mixing any ambien with it? On paper, that should make for some guaranteed full hallucinations, if thats what you're after. The tired effect of ambien only lasts 10 minutes strong or so, just resist it and your good to go. You can trip pretty hard off 30mg and over. In theory with enough ambien + LSD combo, you should be able to pseudo dream while awake.

[Korbal]

Or how about nitrous and LSD? I hear that's supposed to be pretty intense. I'm actually planning on trying that very thing sometime next week and I'll be sure to report back here how it goes.

I've already managed to go through almost 100 of the whippets just using them along with weed. Nitrous is one hell of a drug. Still have 150 that I'm trying to have the willpower to save for the acid.. can't wait. Been looking forward to this more than anything this Christmas break. (first time trying acid)

[Azrayne]

Never tried either ambien or nitrous (which is weird, because I know tons of people who do the latter, cannisters all over club car parks in the city on a saturday night). I do know a lot of people who swear by nitrous + LSD though.

I've only done acid a handful of times though, and I'm kind of over using it as a party drug, any dabbling with hullucinogens will probably involve K next up, it's something I've been interesting in getting my hands on for a while, and something that you can dose on and come down again within 2 - 3 hours is far more interesting to me than the 6 - 8 hour blast from reality LSD provides.

I do know someone who tried tripping on something OTC that is supposed to provide fairly realistic hullucinations though (Diphenhydramine, something like that?) He just got kind of tired and sedated though, after throwing up multiple times.

[jayrebb]

Originally Posted by Azrayne

I do know someone who tried tripping on something OTC that is supposed to provide fairly realistic hullucinations though (Diphenhydramine, something like that?) He just got kind of tired and sedated though, after throwing up multiple times.

Heh I think thats benadryl. Tripping on that is like the jenkem equivalent in the United States, just a step above huffing glue. Dirty.

I recommend trying ambien out though. By itself it gives a strong false conciousness of other people around you, visual distortions able to be manipulated through telekinesis, and a legitimate high depending if you are still awake at whatever dose you roll with. Some people need a sitter with ambien.

[Azrayne]

Yeah I dunno exactly what it is, I avoid OTC stuff (funny how that works).

Ambien sounds interesting, but I've heard a few stories about people trying to trip on it and just going to sleep. It doesn't sound like it'd be suitable as a party drug though, and it's out partying where I do most of my drug use, don't like getting high for it's own sake, unless it's a special occasion, so I dunno, I'll probably give it a miss.

[Eomer]

What people have to keep in mind with LSD, the drug does not create the trip. Your own mind creates the trip, and the drug is just the catalyst.

I know that sounded really deep and spiritual when you thought it, but that's a meaningless sentence. The same can be said for every other drug and substance in existence.

[TheOkapi]

Originally Posted by Eomer

I know that sounded really deep and spiritual when you thought it, but that's a meaningless sentence. The same can be said for every other drug and substance in existence.

I think the point he was trying to get across was that the mindset you have when you take the drug (like your mood, what's been going on the past couple of weeks in your life, your emotional state in general) is really what determines if you have a "good" or "bad" trip.

[tikkus]

Originally Posted by TheOkapi

I think the point he was trying to get across was that the mindset you have when you take the drug (like your mood, what's been going on the past couple of weeks in your life, your emotional state in general) is really what determines if you have a "good" or "bad" trip.

Aye.

There is no "bad" LSD, from what I've read, and I've never seen anyone have "too much."

One friend of mine ate 15 windowpanes one night and came out of it flying, whereas another friend ate 2 and had a psychotic episode.

[Horse]

Originally Posted by tikkus

Aye.

There is no "bad" LSD, from what I've read, and I've never seen anyone have "too much."

One friend of mine ate 15 windowpanes one night and came out of it flying, whereas another friend ate 2 and had a psychotic episode.

The bad LSD is simply not LSD.

Lots of options there:

1. The chemist fucked it up and part of it became toxic
2. different/cheaper ingredients that interact badly
3. outwardly scamming, puts something bad on the paper / liquid.


The bonus to LSD (unless you're getting liquid) is that it cannot be cut and the quantity is so minimal... but...

Getting technical about illegal (unregulated) drugs is silly, yea? A friend had access to Sandoz from a gov. lab and it was not on the same level as any street version. Miniscule quantities were far more potent. Of course that could all be psychosomatic... I mean, it was officially, Government Approved, Sandoz.

I'd be more worried about the amount of aspirin in your coke. Far more toxic.


ps > against a science and drugs forum. Screenshots is the byproduct of science + drugs. While I take pride in my own writing quality I can go elsewhere on the web to read stories about how Cody and Tre-dog (names changed to protect anonymity) shit their pants while running mescaline through the forest preserve. Lived that life. Writing about drugs is like singing about sports. Thanks, no.

[tikkus]

#3 is really unlikely. They'd be better off not putting anything on the paper at all.

[Azrayne]

Is there any way you can test a tab for LSD content, the way you can test pills for MDMA?

[tehpmd]

Originally Posted by Azrayne

Is there any way you can test a tab for LSD content, the way you can test pills for MDMA?

I doubt it, the amount of LSD needed to trip is so minute (its measured in micrograms I believe) that it would be hard to test for.

[vurt]

I'm thinking of growing my own plant and need to decide on some seeds. I know what hardware to get and have boned up on he techniques, now I just need the seeds. Anyone able to recommend me a site or strain? I'd be growing it indoors.

[Korbal]

Gypsy Nirvana's Seed Boutique - I can guarantee is legit. Recommended.
Dr Greenthumb Seeds, Canada - fairly sure is legit but expensive.

There's lots of others.. just do a little homework if you choose a site other than those two. As for the strain, just pick a decently known one or one from a respected/known grower (sensi, serious, whatever.. read reviews) I'd pay a little extra for some decent seeds, but in the end it mostly comes down to how well you grow it.

Also, I'd seriously look into getting feminized seeds, especially if you're only going to be able to grow 1-2 at a time. Nothing is as big of a let down as discovering after 2 months or whatever of work that all the plants are male.