Science and Drugs forum

[zilkoril jr.]

Ditto... Any information is highly appreciated...

[Kargon]

I want to try DMT

[Azrayne]

I was told a friend of mine could get some DMT for me. Not sure if I wanna try that, or grab a gram of K. Decisions, decisions...

[Requiem]

Anybody in the Cambridge area?

Drop me a PM.

[TheOkapi]

So, a guy that I know just got busted for growing because his dumb ass didn't pay rent, so the landlord came in looking for him and found 60+ plants growing in the basement. The guy was kinda stupid, though, and was telling me all his plans for growing when we met, even though he didn't know me at all. I'm not very surprised. But on the down side, no more herb

[Requiem]

This thread does not deliver.

[Tyen]

Originally Posted by Requiem

This thread does not deliver.

No shit, I need my science.

[brekk]

well how broadly do you define the cambridge area? Im in CT but could find excuses to be up towards that part of Mass.

[tikkus]

I would enjoy informations.

[Salshun]

I'll make some contributions to this thread.

Recently got my hands on some 2C-E, a synthetic psychedelic. Very "new" stuff, invented by a guy named Alexander Shulgin,who used to be one of, if not THE head scientist at Dupont. You can read more about it here: here.

The guys is pretty amazing, he managed to synthesize and create like 50 new drugs using a mescaline base. Now I've never done acid/lsd, so I can't compare, but this 2C-E stuff was amazing. Did it a party, sat the whole time in the backyard watching the pool turn to water colors/pastels and melt, the walls pumped to this music, etc. On the way home had someone drive me own the Las Vegas Strip and THAT was amazing. Really warm trip experience with no paranoia or anything resembling a bad trip. Going to get some more this weekend and try it again. Also, from a science point this stuff is so dose sensitive it's not even funny. Like 20mg's is a great dose and 23-25mg's would be very bad.

In terms of a cheesy high, recently read about this Propylhexedrine (Link), the active ingredient in these Benzedrex brand name inhalers you can buy at any drug store. Basically one of those tubes you inhale from, cotton stick in the center soaked in the medicine. You crack the stick, let the cotton soak in a 12oz bottle of soda (has to be dark soda for the acid, Coke, Pepsi, I found that DP works best for the taste) for 2 hours, remove the stick and squeeze the cotton into the drink, shake, and consume. It tastes absolutely horrible, very mediciney and like "lavender". Now I would have never tried this, but a buddy in medical school said he had been using them to stay up and study, so I gave it a shot. I've tried every energy drink on the planet, did the whole ephedrine shit, and hated them all. They just make you twitchy, not awake at all.

This stuff though...oh mama. I've done meth and adderall a couple of times and this is EXACTLY like them both. I do NOT in ANY way understand how this shit is legal. I flew around the room for 10 hours, did about a week worth of server shit for work in a night, etc. Also made me hornier than I'd ever bin in my life. So if you guys ever want a pick me up at night, try it, I highly recommend. Just remember, also like meth, you won't be able to sleep the next day, body will be wrecked, etc.

Currently the "fun" of choice is Oxy. Managing to use it sparingly enough as to not fall back into the addiction I had a few months back, because this stuff is just a hug from God. Very dangerous and tempting. It's not a "high" or "out of it" feeling for those that have never done it, you just feel more complete and happy than ever before.

[zilkoril jr.]

The above post is great. I would love to read more.

[Loftish v2]

Originally Posted by Salshun

It's not a "high" or "out of it" feeling for those that have never done it, you just feel more complete and happy than ever before.

Have you done X before? You say this is better? I'm not being a smartass, I'm genuinely curious.

[Salshun]

Originally Posted by Loftish v2

Have you done X before? You say this is better? I'm not being a smartass, I'm genuinely curious.

I had a huge "every weekend for 6 months" X seasons once, and I have to say it's very different. With X you know you're high. X has a very definitive body feeling. Essentially their are two types of X "rolls", the speedy and the puddle. Now true X, you're getting 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine, or MDMA, these are the puddle rolls. The very out of it, staring at the ceiling, sweating like a slave, muttering "OMFG" for 6 hours highs. The other type you're going to get is 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine, or MDA. These are responsible for the more "speedy" rolls. Very talkative, dancing all night, talking non stop, etc. I feel it's worth it here to dispel some X rumors. Some pills have speed in them, true. No pill has ever had coke or heroin in it. For one, a pill the size of an x pill that's heroin is going to be about 40-50 dollars, more if it's heroin. No one is going to give you $50 worth of coke in a $20 X pill. Two, you can't eat coke or heroin, at least not an X pill size, and feel anything, at least not "high", you'd probably just get sick. You will find, however, that a lot of X pills are cut with bad junk, like DXM, the active ingredient in cough syrup. This BLOWS, it's very disassociate. Imagine being out of your body looking down at it. I got one of these once...and prayed for death.

The human body, specifically the liver, is VERY good at breaking down coke and heroin. That's why you have to snort/shoot it. You would have to eat a piece of heroin/coke the size of a softball to get high.

Now with X, you can't really function in a normal environment. People are going to KNOW you're high. You and 3 high buddies couldn't eat at a restaurant without attracting attention is what I'm getting at. Now with Oxy, you could. You give no outward "I'm drunk or high" characteristics. You just feel awesome. On it I get really friendly, just fantastic mood. I want to smoke more, love to eat/get really hungry. LOVE playing WoW on it. Basically, it makes EVERYTHING you're doing seem better/more interesting.

That's the HUGE problem with Oxy, and why it's so addicting. You are such in a FANTASTIC mood, but you don't feel like "oh it's the drugs", you just feel awesome and it feels like it's all natural. With Oxy, you question "why can't I feel this good all the time sober?".

That's why it's so dangerous, and why I had to limit it to myself as a rare treat, because I did it everyday for 3 months and getting clean was 5 days of pure suck. Also, it renders your man junk worthless, which sucks to say the least.

So to answer...I like X. It's has it's place, but you have to set aside a day to do it. With Oxy, you could pop out of bed everyday and increase your mood by 10, everyday. In terms of my absolute favorite, I have to go with coke. Coke has personality, character, flavor.

[Convo]

Originally Posted by Salshun

The human body, specifically the liver, is VERY good at breaking down coke and heroin. That's why you have to snort/shoot it. You would have to eat a piece of heroin/coke the size of a softball to get high.

That's a lot of drugs. What happens once they hit the stomach?

[Salshun]

Originally Posted by Convo

That's a lot of drugs. What happens once they hit the stomach?

You'll most likely just get sick. One of the first heroin consumption methods in the United States WAS eating it, in cough drops back in the 1800s. It's just so weak and ineffective that my softball example above is the amount you would have to eat to feel on par with someone that injects. So for X to be cut with it, it's just bullshit. No one is going to "hook you up" secretly, it would be like going to buy your girlfriend a ruby ring and the jeweler going "Tee-hee we're secretly going to lace the stone with diamonds!". Also, even if they pill was PURE heroin sold as X, eating 10 of them at once would still not be enough to do anything more than possibly make you warm or tingly.