I posted this in the WoW General forums hoping to get some reply from the CM's. Would like to also hear this board's opinion of the honor grind.
WoW Forums -> Request for Comment: Honor Grind Quote:
Hello CM's,
My question is regarding the state of the Honor Grind. Are the Dev's
a) Aware of the current rate of acquisition of Honor?
b) Happy with the way it is at present?
I am a newly 70 shaman. With the 5man gear horribly out of date, my two avenues of character advancement are:
a) Honor grind
b) BoJ Grind (not really a option as most heroics are gear checks)
Neither of which is particularly appealing, in fact just the prospect of the grind ahead has put me off this game completely.
Note: Raiding and Arena are completely out of the question for a new level 70. Consistent Kara groups are hard to find and even for kara PUGS there is a certain expectation of gear level. You need to run 5mans for a while (till the gods of the RNG smile upon you) before you are ready for Kara.
I did some calculations for Honor requirements for Resto shamans:
Vindicators Gear:
Wrist - 11794 Honor
Waist - 17850 Honor
Feet - 17850 Honor
S1 Honor Gear
Helm -14500 Honor
Shoulders - 11250 Honor
Chest - 14500 Honor
Hands - 10500 Honor
Legs - 14500 Honor
Weapons + OH
1h Healing Mace - 25000 Honor
OH - 9000 Honor
Neck - 15300 Honor
Ring 1 - 15300 Honor
Ring 2 - 11934 Honor
Cape - 7548 Honor
Trinkets x 2 - 60000 Honor
Total Honor required - 256826 Honor /weep
Now the average player probably plays WoW 21 hours per week or 2 1/2 hours per day (this is being generous imo). Assume 1000 Honor per hour (again pretty generous what with dodgy AV maps and premade groups and High resiliance requirements).
This means a over time steady rate of Honor acquisition at 2500Honor per day (some days more some days less but steady over time).
So to get all the gear above I am looking at 102 straight days of playing the same 4 battlegrounds for 2.5 Hours every day.
This is frankly ridiculous and completely over the top. We have now gone the complete circle and back to the old design philosophy of the GM grind.
The rate of Honor acquisition needs to go up by 30% AND the cost of Honor items needs to come down by 30%. I don't know what the devs are afraid of. So what if people get their honor gear fast? It is not like the game is over for you. In fact on the contrary getting the Honor gear opens up tons of new content for you, suddenly you are looking at the possibility of doing the 25man raids, doing Heroics, doing ZA, not getting insta-gibbed in arena.
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