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Jovec · 05-29-2007, 01:06 PM

Kobe has his issues but the real problem is Kupchak. Shaq and Kobe are both to blame for everything that lead to the Shaq trade, but the main issue is the Shaq trade itself. Essentially, the Lakers traded Shaq for fucking Lamar Odom. The other two yahoos (Caron Butler and 38 yro Brian Grant?) who came from Miami don't play for LA anymore, they didn't get any top draft picks, etc.

I realize you won't ever get real value for Shaq (in his prime) but the Lakers got nothing - maybe 25 cents on the dollar for him. Buss, Jackson, and Kupchak should have bitch slapped both Kobe and Shaq to the bench for an entire season if they had to in order to get them to play nice together. FFS, they had two of the best 5, in not best 3 players in the game at the time, on the same team.

Lakers need to suck it up and include Bynum and trade for a big name front court player (KG needs to get out of Minnesota before he slits his wrists). He might be amazing in the future, but Bynum has 1-2 years left to improve, followed by maybe 2-3 years of title contention, before Kobe starts declines too much.

Luke Walton is actually improving, so we are good there. And speaking of white guys, the Lakers should have never traded Mark Madsen.

Kwame Brown is never going to improve (his consistency, he shows flashes of talent), either due to lack of will or MJ crushing his confidence. Smoosh Parker has been an absolute bust - hell, he went for 9 points in 59 mins during the PHX series loss. These two guys wouldn't start on half the teams in the league.

And to end my rant, have the Lakers had a top three draft pick in the last 25 years?

05-29-2007, 01:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jovec Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 406	Kobe has his issues but the real problem is Kupchak. Shaq and Kobe are both to blame for everything that lead to the Shaq trade, but the main issue is the Shaq trade itself. Essentially, the Lakers traded Shaq for fucking Lamar Odom. The other two yahoos (Caron Butler and 38 yro Brian Grant?) who came from Miami don't play for LA anymore, they didn't get any top draft picks, etc. I realize you won't ever get real value for Shaq (in his prime) but the Lakers got nothing - maybe 25 cents on the dollar for him. Buss, Jackson, and Kupchak should have bitch slapped both Kobe and Shaq to the bench for an entire season if they had to in order to get them to play nice together. FFS, they had two of the best 5, in not best 3 players in the game at the time, on the same team. Lakers need to suck it up and include Bynum and trade for a big name front court player (KG needs to get out of Minnesota before he slits his wrists). He might be amazing in the future, but Bynum has 1-2 years left to improve, followed by maybe 2-3 years of title contention, before Kobe starts declines too much. Luke Walton is actually improving, so we are good there. And speaking of white guys, the Lakers should have never traded Mark Madsen. Kwame Brown is never going to improve (his consistency, he shows flashes of talent), either due to lack of will or MJ crushing his confidence. Smoosh Parker has been an absolute bust - hell, he went for 9 points in 59 mins during the PHX series loss. These two guys wouldn't start on half the teams in the league. And to end my rant, have the Lakers had a top three draft pick in the last 25 years? Last edited by Jovec : 05-29-2007 at 01:31 PM.