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Old 05-16-2007, 03:18 AM   #652 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Duppin View Post
This board USED to have far more value than it does now, because while the people here were cynical, jaded gamers, and would call you out if all you posted was bullshit, the USERS were also held responsible for what they posted here, and got the smackdown from Furor/TBH if they got out of line.


I just want people to be cognizant of the fact that you can still disagree with someone in a CIVIL manner.
I like the boards here a lot more these days, except for the absence of a small number of high profile posters. I do agree with you about people getting smacked down by Furor - he kept the core of the board on real issues. His rants against people were as productive and on the ball as his rants against in game issues.


The problem with the boards back then was everyone would copy his language with no real susbtance to what they were saying.


'You're wrong, suck my cock'.

'Fuck you, the game rawks'

'Fucking game is fucking fucked up beyond all fucking worth the fucking fuck fuck'.



These days the wheat has been sorted from the chaff. Even the 'fucking fuck fucks' are people with valid input. I don't think this board has ever had so much value as it does now - there isn't another place in the world with such a large core of MMORPG players with so much depth of knowledge and experience. And thats being added to all the time.



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Early on, Brad attempted to have real conversations with folks regarding a game that he was excited about, and that yes, he wanted them to get excited about too.

Now, he always gave me the "traveling snake oil salesman" vibe a bit, too, but early on I really think he was trying to have a good back and forth with hardcore gamers

He gave up, I think, when it was clear that he was going to be attacked

What you describe is not how I remember things being, at first; but I don't have the level of e-grudge against Brad that a lot of folks here do, and perhaps I saw his early posts in a different light than you did.

It's easy to paint him as the great Satan of gaming, but I think in the end he just had very large ideas that he had no idea how to effectively put into practice.
I don't have a grudge against Brad, but I think you are being naive. The guys keeps all the magazine covers about himself on his office wall, proclaiming him one of the Gods of MMORPGs. Have a read of this post.

I'm no trying to put the knife into the bloke, I'm just saying, if he has consistently refused to take any advice from so many top people around him in the development of Vanguard, how can you believe he is going to be something else on an anonymous forum ?


My point is I think you are selling the forums here these days short. And like everyone else, my concern is with the folks and families who have lost their jobs.

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