| Not to mention if I can tash him and the cleric can then perma stun him (enforced reverence, tarnation and sound of force) after the tash and the chanter can charm a level 65 mob with CoD (if I had the spell and was level 64 - should be at that level in a week and am negotiating on the spell now) he might last 20 seconds, or less with a level 65 PoP mob beating on him and 4 wizards casting on him and being perma stuned. | 