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Old 01-26-2003, 02:18 AM   #19 (permalink)
Requiem
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Apache runs the WWW server world? For who? People like me who are running private websites such as this one which is running on Apache? Hate to break it to you junior, but even with as much traffic as this site handles, it's on a shitty little 1u 700MHz celeron media box. Apache scales like shit. It can't handle alot of computer. Maybe you missed the word ENTERPRISE. I think that you have absolutely no idea of the scope or magnitude involved in this discussion. Ever tried running Apache on a site that requires a real enterprise server? I have. Real being in excess of 32 Xeon, Itanium(in the case of a SSL server), or other non-Intel 64-bit processors and over 16gb of memory? The kind that moves so much data that there is an array of at least 500 badass 15k cheetahs running like crazy on the database to serve up all of the shit the users are requesting? It takes about 5x the computer, and about 10x the money(yes as computers get larger, they cost more per mip) that IIS does. Click on this: http://www.tpc.org/tpcw/results/tpcw_perf_results.asp What web server software is EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SERVERS USING? See the title of the window? Let me fill you in on something about tpc.org. They don't do this themselves; The configurations you see listed and benchmarked are made by their respective companies just to show off their performance, because everyone knows that tpc.org is the major industry site to show that kind of shit off on. They do whatever they can to get these numbers as high as possible. Obviously you know something that the folks in the enterprise divisions of IBM, Unisys, and Dell don't. Actually, you don't know shit about large scale servers, and it's really obvious. You wanna know why you don't see many *nix or Solaris configurations there? Because it wouldn't be in the best interest of Sun, etc. to post there. They would get slaughtered outright in price/performance. Nevermind me though, I was only in charge of getting pre-release benchmark numbers from giant pre-production enterprise configurations I built up and shipped out to places like ZDNet for the Enterprise Marketting division of Intel. Retard. About the vi comment, your crack displays your complete ignorance about the entire situation. This was possible up until oh, about 7-8 years ago if I were to take a guess, perhaps even longer ago, on almost every ISP. Was it preventable? Sure, so is everything else if you have the foresight to prevent it. Most people didn't.

Doesn't hold much water? Let's say someone does find an exploit in Apache that makes every little mom&pop hosting service with their leet T1's spam the net. OH FUCKING NO!! That's enough to max out my(and mine only) 30 dollar a month 1.5Mbps downstream in my fucking house each. Why bother?

You know what really bugs me? People who always say "I hate xxx" when it's brought up in a conversation even if they don't know shit about it because it's the popular thing to hate, because of other retards just like them. Sadly, many many people do that. You all know the people I'm talking about, right? Why do people do that? Can you afford us some insight into this matter Rensho?
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