Pages and pages of this in two threads. There is of course going to be repetition and plenty of it (hell, I am doing it myself .. zing).
I would however like to point out that if your defense of Vanguard (like Cam I just removed it from my HDD last night) is that it isn't WoW then you have a big problem right there. You are so busy defining the game in terms of what it is not that you cannot see where people are pointing out what are (for them) the flaws of what Vanguard is.
That being said I am glad to see 't3h Brad' has finally got it (and carping on at him after his mea culpa is just petty). Now if he would just drop his stubborn attitude about instancing and accept that it has its place in the gamespace he can get on with turning Vanguard into the kind of game we can all admire. This is no different a path from the one EQ 2 had to take to go from suck to awesome. Quite a few sacred cows had to be sacrificed on the altar of the Blood God.
