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ex-genj · 02-05-2007, 02:40 AM

wow I couldn't disagree more with almost all of your points. I've done all L70 instances with war (me) priest lock rogue and x for last class, usually not a mage. And all of them are very easy once you learn the mechanics of the trash and bosses. And the rogue is.. top dps every run, every boss, every trash mob with a few exceptions, just like he was pre tbc. I guess I just don't get what you're saying here, I especially don't get the love for shadow labs, the place we've done the most (and are basically forced to due to the lack of lower city rep turn ins), I dislike it much more than any other instance basically as the trash bores me or annoys me like the felguards.

Shattered halls is challenging and fun with chaotic pulls that require a good tank and good coordination. However of course I simply don't see an average pug ever doing well there.

Botanica has 5 boss mobs with few trash pulls leading to quick loots and lots of scryer drops. Also you can MC trash for a 30 minute +300 spell damage buff = whee.

Mechanar sucks admittedly but is a fast run and is obviously designed to be difficult due to the no-wipe last boss fight, if you can't deal with it don't go.

Steam vaults is another quick run if you are smart and skip half the trash mobs.

Arcatraz is clearly designed to be the "uber 5 man" and is reflected by the "difficulty" of the trash, none of which is particularly hard at all once you learn what they do, the only really hard pull is the 2 zap-bot guys at once, but you can you know stun them as they explode and get away without being hurt.

Black morass is very very easy, I don't understand the crying about this zone. I did it today with war rogue warlock holy pally resto shaman who just hit 70. Hardly the ideal group but it went very fast with no danger of being overwhelmed.

Maybe I'm being a dick but I just don't see the problems you're complaining about. I like almost all the instances and am looking forward to doing them on heroic with my regular group (and yes I am aware we will almost certainly need a mage).

02-05-2007, 02:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
ex-genj Sean and I soloed Inno with Mistwalkers in 99 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 934 -14 Internets	wow I couldn't disagree more with almost all of your points. I've done all L70 instances with war (me) priest lock rogue and x for last class, usually not a mage. And all of them are very easy once you learn the mechanics of the trash and bosses. And the rogue is.. top dps every run, every boss, every trash mob with a few exceptions, just like he was pre tbc. I guess I just don't get what you're saying here, I especially don't get the love for shadow labs, the place we've done the most (and are basically forced to due to the lack of lower city rep turn ins), I dislike it much more than any other instance basically as the trash bores me or annoys me like the felguards. Shattered halls is challenging and fun with chaotic pulls that require a good tank and good coordination. However of course I simply don't see an average pug ever doing well there. Botanica has 5 boss mobs with few trash pulls leading to quick loots and lots of scryer drops. Also you can MC trash for a 30 minute +300 spell damage buff = whee. Mechanar sucks admittedly but is a fast run and is obviously designed to be difficult due to the no-wipe last boss fight, if you can't deal with it don't go. Steam vaults is another quick run if you are smart and skip half the trash mobs. Arcatraz is clearly designed to be the "uber 5 man" and is reflected by the "difficulty" of the trash, none of which is particularly hard at all once you learn what they do, the only really hard pull is the 2 zap-bot guys at once, but you can you know stun them as they explode and get away without being hurt. Black morass is very very easy, I don't understand the crying about this zone. I did it today with war rogue warlock holy pally resto shaman who just hit 70. Hardly the ideal group but it went very fast with no danger of being overwhelmed. Maybe I'm being a dick but I just don't see the problems you're complaining about. I like almost all the instances and am looking forward to doing them on heroic with my regular group (and yes I am aware we will almost certainly need a mage).