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Old 01-07-2003, 04:51 PM   #52 (permalink)
artebus
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Have you tested it yourself? i have, there is No Phantom Mana. K thnx

I haven't tested it myself, but if there's no phantom mana and you can in fact twist this song twice in one tick, I would consider that a separate issue, and one that should be fixed independently of whether the song itself is too powerful.

This is exactley what ive been trying to say. However, a lot of Guilds arent looking at it like this, they see the insane regen and Say OMG Bards feed the clerics! If the 32 song was properly scaled this Wouldnt exist at all....period.

Well, that would be a social problem, I'd say. If your guild does this to you, educate them to the contrary, and get them to use you correctly.

Given this evidence, like ive said all along the 32 song was simply overlooked, and it needs to be brought back in line with the others, so that i nor any bard am never asked to play a level 32 song on a raid again....period. Whats so wrong about that?

I can agree that CCoC was designed before voice mods, so that it's possibly not intended to scale. If they made it so that mods don't affect it, it would make the song less valuable but it wouldn't be an unreasonable nerf. However, just because the song wasn't designed with modifiers in mind doesn't mean that it needs to be nerfed. The designers didn't intend twisting at first, but now it's an integral part of bard power. In my opinion, CCoC falls in this sort of category: it's more powerful than they probably originally intended, but it's not a game breaking feature. On the other hand, it's also not a core ability in my mind, so if they change that one song, I wouldn't be too heartbroken.
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