[Sharmai]

I was a half wow fan but anti vanguard type...

I wanted something different like player house, AA's, flying mounts that wow didn't have at the time but I wanted those things in WOW not another mmo..

I wanted the economy of EVE in wow to but one can only dream..

As the vanguard beta sucked I was still able to play decently with my monster machine but it just felt boring to me. It wasn't "too brown" it was to.... un-fantasy for me.

It has the different classes and some different lore but it didn't make me feel like I was really in a different world like say when I would play baulders gate or nwn. Like when I would read a book in the Drizzit series and laugh, and get pissed off etc.

I just felt like i was going through the motions. I HATE games with a grind if I notice the grind. I don't care if it takes me 1 day or 400 days to make one level if I am having fun the entire time but if I'm just flat out grinding the same mob or same dungeon and barely anything changes for the 300th run hrough it then im pissed bored...

I like games to give me some helpful direction but not to obvious... i don't want search the entire countryside for 5 hours searching for those rare 5 bear rabbit ears but I sure wouldn't mind a creative and fun quest that took me 5 hours to solve...


I wanted vanguard to be Oblivion ONLINE.... I wanted it to have badass graphics and a fun as class system with decent challenges and some minor handholding where neccssary but I sure didn't want NEW IMPROVED GRAPHICS MMO 00002343


Diplomacy is a nice step in the right direction and the blood mage class is creative but everything has been done already and feels like every other fantasy mmo out there and why anyone would go play a new game that only does a few new things right/better (in my opinion) is beyond me..

WoW does it right and it is missing some elements I want but it DOES draw me into the world and I DO find my time missing when I look up from the game. I don't like the no housing , I HATE THAT THERE ARE NO AA's, and good what I would do for some EvE style economy.. but you know what..


The world is beatiful.. the zones are fantastic... The HUMOR refrences make me laugh, those close call intense battles make me pissed...

Vanguard didn't draw me in and hold me... I wanted to play a necro class and it was just another hunter.. I didn't get permanet dead pets or revive type shit.... I didn't get baddass diseases spells or anything that was just fun...

And I'm not asking for stuff hats OMGWTFBBQ overpowered just plain fun.... fuck that grind shit everyone hails as the next coming of jesus christ I want shit thats just fun..

Like the Paladin in wow protecion questing... mabye its not as efficient and mabye it is but its god damn fun...


And I know some of you say that all that comes later in the game but I can gogue my eyes out for 1301091 levels waiting for that last 10 levels where it finally becomes fun for me...

WoW starts fun... empowers you early... and then at the end you can master your class...

Vanguard starts off hard... makes you pay for every step then if your good enough (read: have enough time to grind endlessly) you get the sweet stuff

Sure some people like punishment before reward but this is a game.. I'm not playing it to punish myself before I'm rewared I'm playing it to enjoy it first and master it when I'm good...


Vanguard is just another mmo... its unique features are nut-busting graphics, punishing grind ->reward, diplomacy
Its differences from WoW, player housing/ships, AA's i think?/ graphical structuring, classes


Not bad differences but not just quite enough to make me switch from wow... if the grind wasn't a grind but fun then it probably would be enough but then it would be wow.5 in terms of subscriber numbers