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Originally Posted by Zuuljin  Umm, did you not just do what your accusing him of doing? Adding more stuff to twist it into your point? He didnt mention the existance of god, or whether or not god can be proved, he simply stated that faith is illogical by definition. |
My point was that atheism is as illogical and or irrational as faith. You can't prove either position. You can not sit down and come up with a logical proof of atheism that can't be torn to shreds. Similiary, you can't sit down and prove God exists without the same thing happening.
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Lastly, how is asserting in a proof that god exists/does not exist cheating? Isnt that how you prove or disprove things, by first making an assumption. Proof by contradiction and all that jazz?
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The assertion in such a proof that is cheating isn't "God exists", or "God doesn't exist" the cheating would be something like this:
Assume God existed,
If God existed we would live in a perfect world.
We don't live in a perfect world therefore God doesn't exist.
Do you see the cheat? The line "If God existed we would live in a perfect world" -- is an unprovable statement. That's the cheat.
Cheers