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Originally Posted by Tirinal There is never a need to "convert" to athiesm, simply because the first "why?" as newborn child asks is from a state of athiesm.
Also! I am very drunk right now. Yay theological debates. |
Hope you're drinking something good.
Anyway -- you suggest that the first "why" is atheist yet there are studies that show that faith is hardwired into the brain--that is that faith is an adaptive trait. Now, I'm not trying to make the point that faith is hardwired -- I'm merely showing that what I'm guessing is the basis of your view on atheism is actually a debatable point. Suggesting that atheism is the default condition of humanity is kinda tricky when the history of our species is pretty clear that the oldest profession was "priest-talking-guy" [and of course the second-oldest profession was....]
This goes back to ToT's argument that there is no rational basis for faith -- of course youu can come up with rational basis for faith beyond Pascal's Wager (which is of course a rational basis for faith) -- their are identifable benefits for having faith here-and-no. People who belong to churches that have confession and who regularly go to confession are on average less stressed out than those who don't belong to such churches -- whatever you think of their faith -- it is certainly a rational decision to belong to do something that makes you less stressed.
Now of course ToT or you may not accept these as the "right" rational reasons -- for much the same reason I don't accept your rational reasons as "right."
But again it just doesn't matter. When it comes to matters of belief -- atheism is really just another belief -- but of the absence as opposed to the presence of God. Logic can't answer these questions -- because any logical systems is suffused with bias.