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Old 12-06-2006, 08:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Tea on tuesday View Post
Dawkins doesn't have to prove faith is irrational because faith is irrational by it's very definition.

Yeah, except Dawkins doesn't try to prove that god doesn't exist he argues that belief in God is irrational, which it is.
As I said, if you _define_ that belief in faith is irrational you will come up with the result that it is irrational.

If you define that belief in atheist is rational you will come up with the result that it is rational.

You can not prove -- using any system of logic you would like -- that faith is irrational and atheism rational -- unless you cheat and insert those definitions at the beginning of your proof.

Dawkins proves his points by cheating. Of course persons on the other side making the rational argument for faith do the same thing.

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