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Originally Posted by frott My biggest issue with EVE and all of the guides is that there is no real "step by step this is what all this shit is, in the order that you encounter it, and what it means for NOW and in the future" guide that I've found. This doesn't have to be a walkthrough or spoiler or tutorial, but it isn't even in the game. The tutorial shows you how to do a few things but not what doing them matters in the long run or why you'd choose one route over the other.
I've seen tons of guides that say "DO THIS ITS COOL" and I'm making dozens of decisions with no real resource that explains the short and long term ramifications... I'm talking something as simple as in game feedback or any sort of confirmation that I'm coming correct, nahmean?
On the flipside there are guides about each little component but not how they all work together and what you need to start off doing.
I killed some NPCs (dots on the screen with boxes?) and didn't know why I won.
I got killed and didn't know why I lost.
I realize that part of the pecking order is keeping people in the dark while others gain power and whatnot, but jesus shit there are so many things to consider -- I quit after doing the tutorial because I had about zero concept of what anything I was doing meant, even while reading through the tomes of information about all the crap that's flung at you from the getgo.
Every time I thought I understood the scope I would find some information that increased it 1000x and basically made me think that what I had done up to that point was wrong. |
The problem is that there's enough stuff that's built up over time that I honestly can't communicate all of it, and if I tried to you'd have pretty much the reaction you're having now and say "fuck that shit I'm out of here." We sell the game by saying "hop in a free ship with 30 friends and go ruin the day of somene who's been playing for months." None of the economics, none of the politics, none of the dreadnaughts or piracy or anything like that. That's gradually introduced and self-explored as you decide whether or not you like the game.
Lots of people play the game, find they don't like it or it's cold or boring or too annoying and quit. No shame in that - different strokes for different folks.
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Do skills in EVE train only when you're offline, or do they also train while you're online doing missions or whatever the EVE equivalent of grinding is?
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Nope, skills are always training regardless of status as long as you have one selected. You have to jump online to change skills, but other than that they just tick away.