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Old 10-26-2006, 10:59 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Loras is not banging his sister. He was *definately* Renly's lover. There is just an overwhelming amount of anecdotal evidence(about all you'll get in these books before anything is confirmed 100%). Off the top of my head(may not have stuff 100% accurate).

Sandor calls him "knight of posies" or some such, an obvious gay knock.

When Loras is talking to I think Jaime at one point he mentions with Renly "we would.......pray...together." And the way it's said is definately meant to imply something else.

The way he always personally helped Renly dress.

Various and sundry mentions of how much Renly cares about his looks and fashion.

Rainbow Guard? HELLOOOO! =D

The way Loras went fucking apeshit when he found Renly dead, to the point of killing multiple innocent people. Sort of the reaction you'd have to a dead lover, not just someone you respected.

There's more, but I haven't read the 1st three in awhile.

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It's a pretty good setup too, the parallel becomes poignant when Jaime comes home to become Cersei's champion (although he's not terribly happy about it and he's pretty sure he's gotta get owned)
Jaime made it pretty clear at the end of AFFC that he was not in fact rushing back to save Cersei. In fact I'm fairly certain her champion is alread in King's Landing, and will almost assuredly defeat anyone they put in front of him. I'm of course speaking of Gregor Clegane. Or rather, the reanimated corpse of Gregor Clegane through Qyburn's dark arts. Which will lead to all sorts of fun new stuff with the religious people of course.

I liked the way Martell revealed that he's been plotting to bring back teh Targaryen's for years and years and was going to marry his daughter to Viserys to make her queen.
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