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Faltigoth · 10-24-2006, 07:50 AM

I'll go with some of my spoilery views as well, if you haven't finished Feast for Crows yet stop now:

For one, I'm fairly convinced that Sandor Clegane isn't dead, and that he has a role yet to play in things, possibly involving Sansa.

I'm also fairly convinced that his brother Gregor isn't dead, either, and that Qyburn has turned him into some kind of monster.

A Clegane showdown is something that seems to be in the works.

Speaking of people that are supposed to be dead but aren't, I think Benjen Stark is still alive and kicking north of the wall somewhere, too, but I don't think he is 'Coldhands'. I do, however, think he is working with Coldhands, and that Bran and the Reeds will meet him.

I'm not even 100% sure in my mind that Ashara Dayne, the rumored mother of Jon Snow, is even dead. When it comes to Martin, nobody's dead until you see a body. Just ask Beric Dondarrion or Catelyn Stark.

I think Littlefinger is in for a rash of shit, and he doesn't know it yet. One of the knights that Brienne runs into while looking for Sansa - one that is also looking for Sansa - shows up in Littlefinger's retinue towards the end of Feast. Whether Littlefinger knows that or not, who knows - he seems to know everything else - but I think that little bastard is going to get a surprise when he gets outplayed at the Game of Thrones by his protege, Sansa.

I also still think that whatever happened at the Tower of Joy is the key to everything. Something tells me that whatever happened there isn't exactly what we think. Like, if Lyanna gave birth there and died there, how the hell did they keep a newborn babe alive in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of Dorne? Unless they knew she was pregnant, and had a midwife or somesuch along with them, which raises all sorts of other questions. The three best knights in the land guarding a tower in the middle of nowhere while the kingdom is in flames and the king and heir are out there fighting? It just doesn't seem right.

The new High Septon smells like the work of Varys to me. The spider does everything for the good of the realm - and he has to know that getting rid of Cersei is, indeed, the good of the realm. Perhaps Littlefinger, but he is far removed from Kings Landing. It just feels like Varys, to give Cersei the rope and letting her hang herself with it.

Another thing that will be important, I think, is what the faceless men are looking for in Oldtown at the Citadel of the Maesters. Was that Jaqen H'qar who showed up at the beginning of AFfC, taking the form of that poor bastard he wiped out in the prologue and now a bunkmate of Samwell Tarly's? That would be interesting, considering the Sam-Arya connection that started in Braavos. And since the Faceless Men are, generally, hired assassins -- who sent him there in the first place? Who would know enough about what is going on to send them there? Mance Rayder, maybe?

I also think that if and when Howland Reed makes an appearance, we are going to find out a shitload about everything.

10-24-2006, 07:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
Faltigoth Army Football forever!! Who needs wins, anyway?!? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 781 +0 Internets	I'll go with some of my spoilery views as well, if you haven't finished Feast for Crows yet stop now: For one, I'm fairly convinced that Sandor Clegane isn't dead, and that he has a role yet to play in things, possibly involving Sansa. I'm also fairly convinced that his brother Gregor isn't dead, either, and that Qyburn has turned him into some kind of monster. A Clegane showdown is something that seems to be in the works. Speaking of people that are supposed to be dead but aren't, I think Benjen Stark is still alive and kicking north of the wall somewhere, too, but I don't think he is 'Coldhands'. I do, however, think he is working with Coldhands, and that Bran and the Reeds will meet him. I'm not even 100% sure in my mind that Ashara Dayne, the rumored mother of Jon Snow, is even dead. When it comes to Martin, nobody's dead until you see a body. Just ask Beric Dondarrion or Catelyn Stark. I think Littlefinger is in for a rash of shit, and he doesn't know it yet. One of the knights that Brienne runs into while looking for Sansa - one that is also looking for Sansa - shows up in Littlefinger's retinue towards the end of Feast. Whether Littlefinger knows that or not, who knows - he seems to know everything else - but I think that little bastard is going to get a surprise when he gets outplayed at the Game of Thrones by his protege, Sansa. I also still think that whatever happened at the Tower of Joy is the key to everything. Something tells me that whatever happened there isn't exactly what we think. Like, if Lyanna gave birth there and died there, how the hell did they keep a newborn babe alive in the middle of nowhere on the outskirts of Dorne? Unless they knew she was pregnant, and had a midwife or somesuch along with them, which raises all sorts of other questions. The three best knights in the land guarding a tower in the middle of nowhere while the kingdom is in flames and the king and heir are out there fighting? It just doesn't seem right. The new High Septon smells like the work of Varys to me. The spider does everything for the good of the realm - and he has to know that getting rid of Cersei is, indeed, the good of the realm. Perhaps Littlefinger, but he is far removed from Kings Landing. It just feels like Varys, to give Cersei the rope and letting her hang herself with it. Another thing that will be important, I think, is what the faceless men are looking for in Oldtown at the Citadel of the Maesters. Was that Jaqen H'qar who showed up at the beginning of AFfC, taking the form of that poor bastard he wiped out in the prologue and now a bunkmate of Samwell Tarly's? That would be interesting, considering the Sam-Arya connection that started in Braavos. And since the Faceless Men are, generally, hired assassins -- who sent him there in the first place? Who would know enough about what is going on to send them there? Mance Rayder, maybe? I also think that if and when Howland Reed makes an appearance, we are going to find out a shitload about everything.