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Asmadai · 09-27-2006, 05:37 AM

When I picture WoW and EQ, I see two people sitting at a desk.

One claims he'll have his stuff ready by the project due date, but come due date, only parts of the project are complete. If you ask him about the incompleteness, he'll tell you 'oh it's complete; i'm serious.'

The other acknowledges the fact that there is a due date, but flat out tells you he won't have the project complete by then. Slowly, after the project was already due, he brings the completed numbers and pie graphs that were missing to the table.

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I really can't tell which one i'd hate more. I guess it all comes down to how bad you hate being lied to. I don't mind it all that much; not near as much as some. Blizzard was upfront sure, but I wouldn't say that 'truth' outweighed 'incompleteness' here.

SoE lied about the completeness of their own product, but even thru the examples i've seen, and the examples i've personally experienced, it was like, 1 or 2 zones every expansion that they lied about? And lets not forget, where YOU were in the game really affects the judgement here.

Take Velious for example. The only people who were really hurting from the ST and PoM lies were the high end raiding guilds. I think there was about 3 on my server all throughout Velious that could even last 5 minutes in those zones. From the view of the server, Sony lied to us 3 raiding guilds. The other people on the server could really care less, as the zones they can do were working just fine.

Now think of WoW - The 'endgame' crowd on here didn't even have ANYTHING to do until they patched in MC. We were pretty much handed the 5-10 man zones, and told 'have fun until we can finish the rest'. But this is ok?

Like I said, it comes down to how getting lied to truly makes you feel. However, regardless of ethics, both companies fucked up imo.

09-27-2006, 05:37 AM	#192 (permalink)
Asmadai the Venerable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sealab Posts: 2,720	When I picture WoW and EQ, I see two people sitting at a desk. One claims he'll have his stuff ready by the project due date, but come due date, only parts of the project are complete. If you ask him about the incompleteness, he'll tell you 'oh it's complete; i'm serious.' The other acknowledges the fact that there is a due date, but flat out tells you he won't have the project complete by then. Slowly, after the project was already due, he brings the completed numbers and pie graphs that were missing to the table. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I really can't tell which one i'd hate more. I guess it all comes down to how bad you hate being lied to. I don't mind it all that much; not near as much as some. Blizzard was upfront sure, but I wouldn't say that 'truth' outweighed 'incompleteness' here. SoE lied about the completeness of their own product, but even thru the examples i've seen, and the examples i've personally experienced, it was like, 1 or 2 zones every expansion that they lied about? And lets not forget, where YOU were in the game really affects the judgement here. Take Velious for example. The only people who were really hurting from the ST and PoM lies were the high end raiding guilds. I think there was about 3 on my server all throughout Velious that could even last 5 minutes in those zones. From the view of the server, Sony lied to us 3 raiding guilds. The other people on the server could really care less, as the zones they can do were working just fine. Now think of WoW - The 'endgame' crowd on here didn't even have ANYTHING to do until they patched in MC. We were pretty much handed the 5-10 man zones, and told 'have fun until we can finish the rest'. But this is ok? Like I said, it comes down to how getting lied to truly makes you feel. However, regardless of ethics, both companies fucked up imo.