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titan_atlas · 09-10-2006, 10:12 PM

[quote=Utnayan]
It isn't going to change until they find the people that should not be developing these games, and replace them with people that want to learn the systems, want to make positive changes, are willing to put forth the effort to understand the concepts and mechanics before doing so, and then making it happen while communicating with each other.

As it stands right now, you have about 60 ego's all clashing trying to come up with the newest game concepts for EQ2, regardless of game mechanics, trying to prove themselves so they can advance in the company without addressing why the game isn't fun to begin with and completely ignoring valid and legitimate concerns. It's why nothing gets fixed, and it's why less and less are subscribing and putting up with it.

They need to be more team conductive, and it shouldn't have to be forced. Until you fix those basic game development tactics, SOE will continue to shuttle out mediocre at best titles.QUOTE]

Ok, as much as I love how you fag up these threads, I want to dispute your assumptions here. Ut I won't begin to guess what you do for a living but you have some bad guesses on how a corporation runs. I would think you have never seen exactly how team conducive a large company really is. It probably isn't 60 egos competing, more the opposite. Like the workplace in general large companies have been watered down to ineffectiveness from "team" behavior. Everything is a team coming to agreement and cutting off any offensive hard edges of an idea. We can't alienate anyone or hurt any feeling m'kay. Don't want anyone feeling hurt so good ideas tend towards getting thrown to the wayside since someone will rail against them or feel they have been stepped on. They have probably already thinned out anyone with strong opinions and revolutionary ideas since the team doesn't want one cocksure asshole taking over and bossing people around. Leadership is dead in the large corporations or is only tolerated at the very top from one guy. That is whats lacking here, they lost their innovators and are left with the sheep, all in team agreement on every decision.

09-10-2006, 10:12 PM	#195 (permalink)
titan_atlas Manwhore Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 422 -1 Internets	[quote=Utnayan] It isn't going to change until they find the people that should not be developing these games, and replace them with people that want to learn the systems, want to make positive changes, are willing to put forth the effort to understand the concepts and mechanics before doing so, and then making it happen while communicating with each other. As it stands right now, you have about 60 ego's all clashing trying to come up with the newest game concepts for EQ2, regardless of game mechanics, trying to prove themselves so they can advance in the company without addressing why the game isn't fun to begin with and completely ignoring valid and legitimate concerns. It's why nothing gets fixed, and it's why less and less are subscribing and putting up with it. They need to be more team conductive, and it shouldn't have to be forced. Until you fix those basic game development tactics, SOE will continue to shuttle out mediocre at best titles.QUOTE] Ok, as much as I love how you fag up these threads, I want to dispute your assumptions here. Ut I won't begin to guess what you do for a living but you have some bad guesses on how a corporation runs. I would think you have never seen exactly how team conducive a large company really is. It probably isn't 60 egos competing, more the opposite. Like the workplace in general large companies have been watered down to ineffectiveness from "team" behavior. Everything is a team coming to agreement and cutting off any offensive hard edges of an idea. We can't alienate anyone or hurt any feeling m'kay. Don't want anyone feeling hurt so good ideas tend towards getting thrown to the wayside since someone will rail against them or feel they have been stepped on. They have probably already thinned out anyone with strong opinions and revolutionary ideas since the team doesn't want one cocksure asshole taking over and bossing people around. Leadership is dead in the large corporations or is only tolerated at the very top from one guy. That is whats lacking here, they lost their innovators and are left with the sheep, all in team agreement on every decision.