[kohl]

Originally Posted by Drauk

Ofc im not raiding 7 days a week, 14 hours. However there is some guilds thats pretty close to that. Inner Sanctum raids 6 days a week (5-6 hours i guess) and they are goind with 7 days when 1.11 hits.
However, im raiding for 9 months now. And there is quite a lot of people who are raiding for 1.5 years. And we will continue to raid, while PvPers can do nothing and enjoy ongoing upgrades.

Exactly, but my point is that you are not FORCED to raid 12 hours a day, 7 days a week just for a shot at an upgrade. Raiding guilds have a time window during which they raid, and even if its raiding 6-7 days a week, individuals can take a day or two off without it crippling a guild's ability to raid. Plus as I mentioned, as you learn the encounters and put each boss in an instance on farm mode, it gets easier for the guild as a whole. Imagine if you never could put a boss on farm status; if every trip to BWL involved 10-20 wipes and after 4 months of killing Nef, it took you the same amount of time to clear the instance.
In PvP, you take a day or two off at R13 and you just ensured your deranking.