| I think people are missing a huge stumbling block with EVE. Namely, you really do have to spend a couple months training to get to the "fun" stuff. Most decent corps won't take you until you're over 2-3 mil SP, and mission hunting/solo mining gets boring really quickly. Not to mention that being in a crappy corp is worse than being solo. Maybe if you've been playing a while, you've forgotten that. Maybe not.
At any rate, other games allow people to front-load at least some fun. A lot of the early WoW quests are pretty interesting, and don't require you to be "uber" at all. Same goes for the new trial experience in EQ2. EVE's trial make you want to gouge your eyes out and quit forever. Listen to a newbie channel sometime when you get the chance. It's filled with a million people asking if they really have to do the trial, because it's boring.
And there's really no way to speed up that "sucky" newbie time. In other games, you can grind a lot, and at least get it over with quickly. In EVE, you're simply stuck.
Regardless, that's been my experience with EVE (started in December). Feel free to refute points, but there's not really much that's opinion there. Unless you really do have a lot of fun mining and mission running in sec space. Then, bully for you!
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