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Sylas · 03-28-2006, 10:36 AM

riiiight sure you did buddy, suuuuure you did.

edit: to elaborate before I get banned or something, let me just say that, yeah, I know you can't say what we all know. You've gotta remain strong and in defense of the work you did, gotta keep up the PR fluff and I understand all of that. But honestly here, you know (atleast you better) that we're not sheep, we don't have the memories of gold fish here, you can't go back and revise history to suit your particular spin of the day.

To clarify something, WoW was in F&F alpha for 4-6 months or, went into a small beta around december and then opened up from their to the large public beta that it was in. The beta period itself was closer to 11 months including the open beta and stress test, not 9. The fact is, WoW was in beta being tested and polished for longer than SWG was in development from start to launch, and the difference between them is clear, its night and day man.

You're the president of SOE and you just said publically that 9 months was too long for you guys. You're the decision maker here and its evident that you really just don't get it. 9 months is too long? Wrong answer pal. 9 months of a non-NDA beta? Sure, I see where you are coming from here. 9 months of a beta of that size? alright, sure. But 9 months is too long, period? This is exactly what your customers have been complaining about for all of these years. You didn't manage to accomplish the polish or balance that WoW did in your 3 month F&F alpha (being generous here) and your 6 week closed NDA extremely limited beta. Not even close, by a few orders of magnitude.

Now i'm not knocking your game. I DL'd the trial of the isle the other week to test out the new player experience and I have to say that its really starting to shape up. I've said it before but Gallenite is truly a miracle worker and I for one am surprised that he doesn't have your job yet. But please, don't insult us with your rose colored glasses of the state of play you launched in. You should be looking at the launch of WoW and making 9 months the minimum you spend polishing your games, not the other way around.

03-28-2006, 10:36 AM	#29 (permalink)
Sylas Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: A-T-L-Joja Posts: 540 +0 Internets	riiiight sure you did buddy, suuuuure you did. edit: to elaborate before I get banned or something, let me just say that, yeah, I know you can't say what we all know. You've gotta remain strong and in defense of the work you did, gotta keep up the PR fluff and I understand all of that. But honestly here, you know (atleast you better) that we're not sheep, we don't have the memories of gold fish here, you can't go back and revise history to suit your particular spin of the day. To clarify something, WoW was in F&F alpha for 4-6 months or, went into a small beta around december and then opened up from their to the large public beta that it was in. The beta period itself was closer to 11 months including the open beta and stress test, not 9. The fact is, WoW was in beta being tested and polished for longer than SWG was in development from start to launch, and the difference between them is clear, its night and day man. You're the president of SOE and you just said publically that 9 months was too long for you guys. You're the decision maker here and its evident that you really just don't get it. 9 months is too long? Wrong answer pal. 9 months of a non-NDA beta? Sure, I see where you are coming from here. 9 months of a beta of that size? alright, sure. But 9 months is too long, period? This is exactly what your customers have been complaining about for all of these years. You didn't manage to accomplish the polish or balance that WoW did in your 3 month F&F alpha (being generous here) and your 6 week closed NDA extremely limited beta. Not even close, by a few orders of magnitude. Now i'm not knocking your game. I DL'd the trial of the isle the other week to test out the new player experience and I have to say that its really starting to shape up. I've said it before but Gallenite is truly a miracle worker and I for one am surprised that he doesn't have your job yet. But please, don't insult us with your rose colored glasses of the state of play you launched in. You should be looking at the launch of WoW and making 9 months the minimum you spend polishing your games, not the other way around. Last edited by Sylas; 03-28-2006 at 10:56 AM..