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Old 01-01-2005, 08:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally posted by dak
You may ask what had the foresight to make these all encompassing rules so that chaotic energy could be ushered into seemingly higher order? The fact of the matter is origin of law is inconsequential, regardless of how the laws of particle interaction were layed out, creation in some form would ensue. This is the very nature of law, any forced direction will lead to order.

As for where the energy which forms these particles came from, a higher power is not needed to explain. Although in the beginning the universe was a empty void it still had properties and status which required definition. This was information and information is itself "energy" thus in defining itself it was forced create. This appearance of new energy created a need for more definition requiring more information and thus more energy. This energy which was being produced with great fervor was forced to interact according to its properties and through these interactions particles were formed.
I appreciate your post, but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. In your opinion, our universe's existence became about simply because it had to? If time is infinite, what was happening prior to the "big bang"? Nothingness for billions of years and then suddenly something out of no where just simply because? Or did existence for everything coincide with the big bang? Again, I still don't understand how it would just simply come to be. I realize you say I don't have to understand... but that's really no different than believing in God, as you apparently understand.

But if what you say is true, and everything exists just simply because... I take no comfort in this, at all. Some people can deal with it and be ok with it, but I'm not one. Anyways, thanks again.

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Originally posted by Phoenix
God is used to explain things we do not yet comprehend.

Death is a perfect example.

That and religon is just another tool for others to control you. The Middle East is a perfect example of people being used as tools in the name of religon.
Let's not get into which religions are false and which one is correct because that'll just lead to bashing people & hurt feelings.

Anyhow... I agree. There's no doubt that certain religions if not all of them were created simply for control.
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