[Jait]

Originally posted by Thug
[b]I have to say I agree with Furor here. Rankings, especially point based ones really have no place in a RPG game.

Well there goes half the RPGs out there that keep score. Role playing and Fantasy are two different things bucko. And many RPGs keep score, even Fantasy ones. Of course screw all that Tolkien, Salvatore fiction about party members keeping count of their kills. That has no place in your Universe. Even Wizardry, Might and Magic, Final Fantasy, etc... kept score.

Aside from the competition it breeds it will sometimes also limit what some players are willing to try in the game.

No one said anything about limiting anything. It's about having a list to see what you've done in this game and nothing to hinder you from the personal achievement of finishing every quest you want to. You can't automatically start blaming the players for a system that doesent even exist. You work for SOE by any chance?

Many RPGs, especially CRPGs keep track of every quest, every major kill, even occassionally building/generating entire journals off this.

You can go look through your characters history and see you killed Foozle on May 11th, and Foozles mother on June 12th.

EQ currently has a ranking system for the LDoN adventures and there have been times where some members of the group wanted to try a "hard" rated adventure but some members did not because they did not want to take the risk of a loss and lose their 100% success rate.

It also made people more picky with who they grouped with because having a cleric or enchanter in the group whos not really known for being all that attentive would risk the groups success in the adventure.

Everyone blames the player and not the developers. Gotta love it. Seriously, this is about concept, not about past implementations.

If EQ added a list to everyones character showing all your quests that you had completed and at the bottom of that list it says.

1239/12365 Quests completed
800/5000 Antonica
100/2200 Kunark

etc...etc..

You guys looking at this as something you *HAVE* to do, should've used the same arguement in Tradeskills. There's quite a few people trying to complete every tradeskill there is, but no one whines about being *forced* to do it. Or how there is a competition where none should exist.

If you don't want it, ignore it. It's there for everyone else.