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Originally Posted by Voyce  Who ever said Madoff was a sociopath? Did he kill anyone? Before you answer, yeah, to be a sociopath you pretty much had to have at least tried, or have been diagnosed as one prior to trying to kill someone. Otherwise Bill Gates is a sociopath, yeah, seriously he just stomped the shit out of all of his competition with hard line deals and reaped the profit so he could start the The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, a modern Robin Hood right? (Gates has Asperger's) So would be any teacher who likes to fail students. |
Antisocial personality disorder does require you to have tried to kill someone. Quoting the APA Diagnostics and Statistics manual it is "...a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood." Deceit and manipulation are considered essential features of the disorder.
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Originally Posted by Voyce Justice is definitely about deterrence and revenge, but it's more deterrence. If someone killed one of my loved one's I'd want to kill them myself, not have them be punished by a third party.
Here's a little test, go over to your stove/range and turn one of the burners on, wait for it to warm up and stick your hand on it... Now Try and make yourself do it again. Chances are you won't do it the first time.
Guess what?
That's a deterrent.
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That is not a deterrent. That is conditioning. Our criminal justice system is based on four things, incapacitation, retribution, deterrence, and rehabilitation. Our preference for incapacitation is clear. We have the largest prison population in the world and imprison more people per capita than any other country as well. Revenge is not one of the cornerstones of criminal justice.
The primary problem with deterrence is that it assumes rationality. People don't really think things through and they overestimate their own abilities when they do. Almost everyone arrested is either drunk or high at the time and that puts a real damper on logical thought. Panic, passion, and necessity all do a good job of hindering the possible benefits of deterrence. Strong social and economic forces make a mockery out of deterrence as well. It is not an unimportant concept but it is not what the US is basing its laws on.
