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Old 03-13-2009, 09:40 AM   #78 (permalink)
Snugglebear
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Originally Posted by OneofOne View Post
This is something I can get 100% behind. On one hand I agree you can't *make* a woman get an abortion against her will, but the father currently having no say is BS. That's a good compromise./QUOTE]

The flaw in this argument is that a pregnant woman thinks rationally. They don't. The mere idea of putting pressure on a pregnant woman to either have a baby or lose income is unconscionable. Keep your dick in your pants and maybe you won't lose out. The idea of a father not having rights is the lesser of two evils perhaps, but does not give your argument legitimacy. Besides, many women do give up income in exchange of termination of visitation rights, etc.

Not touching the "Whether the baby has a soul, is immoral, etc" argument. Seems everyone's answer depends on where you draw the line on your own morally relativistic hyprocrisy. Just try and worry about treating others with a little common sense and respect and all you baby killers and bible thumpers will die off with the dodo.
But if you don't want to be a part of the child's life and pay mandatory childcare money, why not allow the father to opt out? In my state there is a law that requires a man to pay a minimum monthly amount to the mother. It seems like the man has no choice in the matter. And no, I don't trust a pregnant woman (or any crazy woman) with some 'gentleman's agreement' where you just don't pay. She could get pissed later and demand 2 years worth of child support!
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