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Old 05-21-2008, 02:42 PM   #581 (permalink)
Izuldan
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Originally Posted by Jubee View Post
You are looking at it as if they were to implement 10 man raids now as opposed to being around from the start of BC.

A ton of guilds crashed with the change in raid sized from 40 to 25 mans when BC released. During that rebuilding process, how many would have bothered to go up to 25 man if they could see the content with just their "core?" I raided for 4 years in EQ and 2 years in WoW and I never once talked to a raider that didn't hate half of the people in their own guild. I personally have 8 people on my ignore list. 7 of them are my own guildies. I would never put up with these people if they didn't roll the correct class a few years ago.

Would you have wrangled up 15 extra bodies if you didn't need to in order to see new content? A vast majority of the guilds out there would not.
Riiiight......because most 25-man raid guilds today are from those old former 40-man guilds downsizing, and not from smaller guilds merging into bigger ones? Is that your assumption?

Let's not forget also that with WotlK, there is no real change to raid sizes. You will still have your 25-man raids, which makes your whole point moot. You think just because 10-man raids exist that those guilds are gonna fall apart? You think smaller guilds doing 10-man content won't grow to do 25-man content like they do already on practically every server? And in response to your question "during that rebuilding process, how many would have bothered to go up to 25 man if they could see the content with just their "core?", I guess it would depend on how important having the best loot is to them, because the best loot is still going to come out of the 25-man instances.

You know, because according to you, guilds doing 10-man content never man up and add people to do 25-man content.

And btw, I totally can sympathize with you about the guildies thing. The larger a guild gets, the more drama it seems, and the more chances there are that someone in the guild is gonna rub you the wrong way. All the more reason to keep guilds small, which is another great reason to focus on 10-man raids instead of 25-man raids, just like it's better than 40-man raids. Why be forced to raid with people you don't get along with just because you need a certain inflated number of participants, when you can have more fun raiding with fewer people you do get along with and have a good, drama-free time? I'm paying money to have fun, with people I like hanging out with (the MMO part), and not deal with other people's bullshit.

Last edited by Izuldan : 05-21-2008 at 02:53 PM.
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