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Old 05-13-2008, 10:52 AM   #925 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Zerai View Post
I don't get this. If they wanted to screw you..and you wouldn't...where is the morality issue? Did you mean you wouldn't rape them? Your point here fell apart. Whats wrong with screwing the 3 of them if they wanted to? Maybe if you were married?

And I fail to see how beating the fuck out of someone who raped your significant other is immoral. Thats fucking justice. Religion wouldn't stop anyone here. The only thing that would stop someone from doing this is being physically restrained by police not to. I'd say is more immoral to do nothing about someone raping your family.

Morals do stem from our brains though. Not religion. a) if you could just go around killing whoever you wanted, other people can come and kill you. This is bad. b) look at the animal kingdom. Tons of animals have social hierarchies where they don't kill each other in their specific tribes. We're just a step above them. Not much though...Look at the middle east...They are still killing other 'tribes'
This is my point exactly. People are not inherently moral, it has to be taught to us by our parents and the society we live in.

The girls were all underage last year and you would be charged with battery/attempted murder if you issued some street justice to the rapist. Both are worth the jail time IMO.

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Religion adapts to society. Religion is a reflection of the moralities of a society. Morality does not come from religion. Moral values change over time within a society and religion adapts to fit these changes. You could say that religion is accountable for delaying these changes, but in no way religion defines or is the source of morality.
Yes to the first part, no to the second. The entirety of Middle Eastern culture is dominated by their religion. However, if Muslims actually followed the Koran there would not be suicide bombers or jihads. But as Chrisb3 alluded to, religious leaders take it upon themselves to preach what is politically expedient for them to preach. This abuse of power is what is offsetting most of the good that religion could be doing for society.
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