[Azrayne]

Originally Posted by Salshun

As for the 2C-'s, I've never done anything else, but I've heard from numerous people that 2C-E can be a lot more intense and a heavier body load. Now I've never done LSD, so I can't really speak on it, but I really don't think it would interest me. 2C-B I like because of the body euphoria, the psychedelic aspects are kind of just an added side bonus, plus they're not really anything heavy, like I said, just the colors and shapes shit. One interesting little bit of info on LSD is that in my opinion, it's the only real "slam dunk" in the history of the drug war. 2 guys got busted that were pumping out 95% of the shit in the United States, and they got busted. You can read about the main guy here:

Honestly, you're not missing much, though I guess LSD would probably be worth trying once just for the sake of it, if you're up for such a long term commitment (long term drug wise).

That's an insane amount of LSD they were producing. I was going to go into a tangent about the ridiculous sentencing they were given, but I won't.

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As for Ketamine, I've never tried it. I do know it's one of the few psychedelics that you can become addicted to and I've also heard dosage can sometimes be difficult to gauge, which over dosing very easy to do.

Yeah, I find it interesting that it's addictive actually, since usually that's the domain of stims/depressants/opiates. Doseage I wouldn't be so worried about, thats the fun thing about drugs you can snort, it's easy to start slow and top up and to measure out doses fairly precisely. I'd want to avoid overdosing, since although it's not fatal, I've seen people K-hole at clubs before, and it's not a pretty sight.

My favorites have always been amphetamines, which the BIG exception of meth. I've done it once and never again.

That's odd actually, that amphetamine doesn't give you a comedown, but meth does. Did you use a higher dose, or a different method of ingestion?

I find meth comedown usually only occures if you get completely loaded, or stretch the high out too long. I can snort 30mg or so and get nice and buzzed for a couple hours and just slide down easily, but smoking a couple points on a night out or keeping myself awake 2 or 3 days guarantees a shitty day or two afterwards. More or less to the point where it's not worth it.

Nonetheless, the drug does take a hell of a lot out of you with extended/regular use, and it also has the fun side effect of being incredibly addictive. I always felt kind of cheated with meth, it's much less fun than MDMA, but so much more addictive. Of course once you remind yourself that the craving is just your brain begging for a dopamine hit and not you actually wanting the experience of the drug, it's easier to handle.

I don't like any drugs where the days following taking it I regret it and have to recover. Even X I gave up because of the penchant for a really shitty recovery period.

Yup. A bad MDMA comedown is one of the worst things you can ever experience. But you can usually avoid it with moderation. As long as you don't take it more than once every 6 - 8 weeks, and don't redose once it wears off, you should usually only get a momentary discomfort when coming down. As long as you take these precautions, I think the amazing high is worth the temporary discomfort of the comedown.

In that same line of thinking, I was never a Xanax/Soma fan, because frankly anything that makes me tired I really don't view as recreational. Hell I know people that take Temazepam and Ambien and a recreational drug. When I ask them how a sleeping pill is recreational, they tell me that "Oh you have to fight the urge to sleep". How is sleep deprivation fun? Pretty much any of the Benzo line of drugs. I just honestly don't get it.

Yeah I really don't get that either, but I enjoy my sleep too much to take sleeping pills then purposely deprive myself of it. I'd just crash the fuck out.

That said, I do like valium as a way to ease the comedown after a night partying on meth/MDMA. Instead of the long, drawn out crash with 'omg I feel terrible and want to sleep but my mind is racing', you just get home, pop the pill, and 15 minutes later you're fast asleep.

Also, weed, never liked it. Some people get really energetic and hyper on it, and I really envy them, because I just lay in bed staring at the ceiling trying to get the energy to even piss, let alone enjoy it with other high people in a social setting.

Weed is kind of like alcohol for me. I could live without it, I enjoy the effects at low doses, but I always regret going too far with it. A single cone to get me a little relaxed is always fun, but I really don't enjoy the sensation of high doses of weed, it just gives me the same 'confused' feeling I get with acid, an uncomfortable 'heavy' feeling, and makes me very withdrawn and awkward. Kind of like a weaker version of everything I dislike about LSD.

In terms of my favorite drugs, I would have to say coke or the opiate line (Oxy, hydro, etc). If you think about it, they make you full of energy, and in a fantastic mood, and for me that's the be all, end all point of drugs.

I've never tried either, actually. I'd like to try opiates just so I know how they feel, but mostly I'm a party drug person, so I'm never really exposed to it. Coke in Australia is stupidly expensive and, allegedly, very poor quality, so I don't really see the point.

Does Oxy give you a comedown or any sort of negative backlash when it wears off, as with stims?